Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.10.0.0 RC3

2017-06-27 Thread Rajani Karuturi
I don't think creating a branch will help in releasing faster. It will only make it worse in my opinion. If we can release faster, features will stay in the PR branch for a short while and can be merged quickly. ~ Rajani http://cloudplatform.accelerite.com/ On June 28, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Daan Ho

RE: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.10.0.0 RC3

2017-06-27 Thread Paul Angus
Those new PRs should not have been merged. Those on the mailing list should respect the process and accept that they will have to wait until code is unfrozen. Kind regards, Paul Angus paul.an...@shapeblue.com  www.shapeblue.com 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue

Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.10.0.0 RC3

2017-06-27 Thread Daan Hoogland
I'm with Mike on this. fixes go into the rc branch, features don't and that's a clearer line then we have now. or we could just keep rc'ing untill one passes and keep working on stablising whichever branch we choose for that allowing both features and fixes. On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Tutkow

Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.10.0.0 RC3

2017-06-27 Thread Rajani Karuturi
Paul, Which shows we are not actively following RCs. That PR was a blocker for RC3 and was well discussed. That PR is a perfect example that we are not working as community to release code. That is a fix for a blocker which stayed open for more than 45 days. If you see till RC2 it was only blocke

Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.10.0.0 RC3

2017-06-27 Thread Tutkowski, Mike
Hi, I personally still like the idea of a new branch being created right around the time we cut our first RC. Even if people want to commit changes to the new branch, they should understand that that code won't be formally released until the pending RC is validated and released. That being th

RE: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.10.0.0 RC3

2017-06-27 Thread Paul Angus
Rajani, I suspect that fatigue with the 4.10 release testing that we are seeing is due to the time it has taken to release it. And that is has been caused by new code going in, which have introduced new bugs. This was demonstrated in the last -1 from Kris. This change was merged 10 days ago.

Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.10.0.0 RC3

2017-06-27 Thread Rajani Karuturi
We can do a release every month as long as we have enough people actively participating in the release process. We have people who wants to have their code/features checked in. We, very clearly do not have enough people working on releases/blockers. How many of us are testing/voting on releases or

Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.10.0.0 RC6

2017-06-27 Thread Rajani Karuturi
Hi Kris, Can you please apply 2162 locally and see if you are OK with the changes? We shouldn't be spending one RC cycle for one issue. Ideally, we should have more CIs running on PRs from different usage perspectives(like managed storage, nuage, basic network, local storage, etc.). That would he

Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.10.0.0 RC3

2017-06-27 Thread Tutkowski, Mike
I'm glad you guys (Paul and Rafael) agree with me. We should cut a branch once the first RC is built. Then we should only allow blockers in to fix RC issues. This should speed up our releases in the future. > On Jun 27, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Rafael Weingärtner > wrote: > > +1 to what Paul said.

Re: [VOTE] Apache Cloudstack 4.10.0.0 RC3

2017-06-27 Thread Rafael Weingärtner
+1 to what Paul said. IMHO, as soon as we start a release candidate to close a version, all merges should stop (period); the only exceptions should be PRs that address specific problems in the RC. I always thought that we had a protocol for that [1]; maybe for this version, we have not followed it?

Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.10.0.0 RC6

2017-06-27 Thread Kris Sterckx
Hi all, I 'm sorry for voting -1 again. Issue : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-9980 Caused by : https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2089 Fixed by : https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2162 Kris - Nuage Networks On 26 June 2017 at 18:58, Tutkowski, Mike wrote:

Re: ***Cloudstack EUUG - CFP***

2017-06-27 Thread Marc-Aurèle Brothier
Hi Giles, I could give a talk on live migration with KVM that we have since one year here. That might help to get the feature fixed and merged for CS. Let me know. https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/1709 Marc-Aurèle On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Wido den Hollander wrote: > Hi, > > Re