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Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-10 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Saturday 10 December 2005 19:20, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > The orthogonality of Cocoon has "died". Noone talks about views. Noone > > highlights the ability to serve same content to many user agents. Noone > > is interested in truly useful smaller components. Noone ca

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-10 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: What can we do? Two things: 1) breath and relax, we are not going to get run over: changing the slope does *NOT* change the nature of the function (they will understand that as soon as they cross that equi-cost point... and complexity grows even faster the more "

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-10 Thread Torsten Curdt
On 08.12.2005, at 19:21, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:Cocoon is what it is today, but what it is tomorrow is defined by what we, collectively, decide.Amen :)...I also started a long-winded response to this big thread(s) butsince at least a little crowd is going to meet soon at the ApacheConI ended up th

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Re: where is the box?

2005-12-10 Thread Ben Anderson
So I guess the best of both worlds would be jruby. I'm not real sure where this project is at, but I know it's been getting at least some lovin. On 12/6/05, Irv Salisbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I write here is just one vote, but maybe others think the same. > > For all of our enterpri

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-10 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Friday 09 December 2005 02:21, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: And in terms of moving the "equi-cost" point to the left, there are two fundmentally different variables to consider. for instance, if t y = a * b / x ` \/ total cost of owners

[FFT] Kitchen Sink

2005-12-10 Thread Leo Sutic
I pretty much agrees with what Berin has been saying - and I also agree with Stefano. Berin is right in that we must strive for simplicity. Stefano is right in that a (somewhat) complex system is required to solve even more complex problems. The problem with Cocoon as I see it is this: Think abo

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-10 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 09 December 2005 02:21, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: And in terms of moving the "equi-cost" point to the left, there are two fundmentally different variables to consider. for instance, if t y = a * b / x ` \/ total cost of ownership (y)     ^     |    

Re: [Poll] We need to align on one point (was Re: [Vision] Knowing When We are Done)

2005-12-10 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 08 December 2005 02:10, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: > With this I > measn that you can use the parts of Cocoon that you like, in the way you > like in your webapp, without having to buy a whole religion. Being a devout atheist, I must +1000 this one. Niclas