Re: New Spring Maintenance policy

2008-09-25 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 22:17 -0700, Ralph Goers wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 09:10 -0600, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Hi, There is a worst case scenario now: What if they don't collect enough money from subscriptions and do the next step: remove the 3 months

Re: New Spring Maintenance policy

2008-09-25 Thread Reinhard Pötz
Ralph Goers wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 09:10 -0600, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Hi, There is a worst case scenario now: What if they don't collect enough money from subscriptions and do the next step: remove the 3 months window or worse go full closed source?

Re: New Spring Maintenance policy

2008-09-25 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Leszek Gawron wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 24.09.2008 00:00, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Yeah. I read this as 3 months after release n+1 is out, release n becomes closed source. I'm wondering how long it will take for forks to appear that will provide open source bug

Re: [C2.2] Why two sets of HTML serializers?

2008-09-25 Thread Reinhard Pötz
David Legg wrote: I've been examining the HTMLSerializer so that I can document it on Daisy. Initially, I was confused about what config options could be used and then it dawned on me that there are actually two different implementations! The default is to use:

Re: [C2.2] Why two sets of HTML serializers?

2008-09-25 Thread David Legg
Good call Reinhard, thanks! Reinhard Pötz wrote: I've perused the developer mail archive and the svn log but not found anything about the background for this second implementation. See http://cocoon.markmail.org/message/z63kh2sx3u4spxo No wonder I didn't find it... 2004 is ancient

Re: New Spring Maintenance policy

2008-09-25 Thread Ralph Goers
First, let me say that I don't think the Spring policy is going to end up being as bad as it was made out to be at first glance, although that may just be wishful thinking. In any case, I think it is extremely premature to talk about forking the code. I think if you were to put yourself in

Re: New Spring Maintenance policy

2008-09-25 Thread Reinhard Pötz
Ralph Goers wrote: First, let me say that I don't think the Spring policy is going to end up being as bad as it was made out to be at first glance, although that may just be wishful thinking. I have the same hopes but something tells me that it is only another step into the direction of

Re: New Spring Maintenance policy

2008-09-25 Thread Reinhard Pötz
Rainer Pruy wrote: A clear statement along only the most current release will receive maintenance efforts would have been much easier and clearer (and would get broader acceptance by the community). That the whole thing was not put that way contributes to the impression that users should be

Re: New Spring Maintenance policy

2008-09-25 Thread Rainer Pruy
I'd doubt a petition by itself would make them change the policy. Probably they no longer can afford time, money or other resource to support community version of spring. If they are trying to make a business out of it it is quite obvious that they won't pop up asking for someone to take over.

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