On 17 Dec 2004, at 17:07, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Uhm, like, yeah, like... sigh. Oh whatever. I've grown out of this.
--
Stefano, wondering what is Steven's special talent that allows him to
piss me off in just three paragraphs ;-)
Reading your reply? No idea, actually.
--
Steven Noels
FYI, the Orbeon stuff is LGPL since about September.
http://www.orbeon.com/company/pr-oss-announcement
.micah
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Dunno what the OXF license is today, at the time it was closed.
The Wayback Machine helps if their website is down:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.orbeon
On Dec 17, 2004, at 8:34 AM, Steven Noels wrote:
As of currently, I think what worries me most is alienation of the
user community. I must say I don't know many projects where the ratio
of developers vs users is comparable to Cocoon's - which means (IMHO)
that you almost need to be a Cocoon dev
Steven Noels wrote:
On 17 Dec 2004, at 13:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just wonder if it is possible that those of you with in-depth
knowledge of
Cocoon and the way open source communities work, can investigate other
major
open source projects like Apache server, Mozilla/FireFox, Tomcat,
JBoss
Le 17 déc. 04, à 15:34, Steven Noels a écrit :
...As of currently, I think what worries me most is alienation of the
user community. I must say I don't know many projects where the ratio
of developers vs users is comparable to Cocoon's - which means (IMHO)
that you almost need to be a Cocoon dev
Steven Noels wrote:
I had a Cocoon BOF two days ago at JavaPolis. I spoke to quite a few
folks during the conference as well, which know how we (as a company)
have been pushing people to use Cocoon over the past three years.
With all due respect, I think there's only a few things we should care
Steven Noels wrote:
On 17 Dec 2004, at 10:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be nice if there was a place where the latest release would be
running, so everyone could check it out. I know this requires cleaning up
the crap that some people think they should enter, but that might be done
through
Steven Noels wrote:
As of currently, I think what worries me most is alienation of
the user community. I must say I don't know many projects where the
ratio of developers vs users is comparable to Cocoon's - which means
(IMHO) that you almost need to be a Cocoon dev before you can actually
use
On 17 Dec 2004, at 13:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just wonder if it is possible that those of you with in-depth
knowledge of
Cocoon and the way open source communities work, can investigate other
major
open source projects like Apache server, Mozilla/FireFox, Tomcat,
JBoss for
that matter and
> FWIW, this has been running on cocoon.cocoondev.org for more than two
> years, but I pulled it down due to lack of hits. Similarly, I will be
> dropping the webmail.cocoondev.org demo soonish.
Too bad I didn't know this before. But maybe that's exactly the reason for
the low hitrate: too few p
Steven Noels wrote:
On 17 Dec 2004, at 10:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be nice if there was a place where the latest release would be
running, so everyone could check it out. I know this requires
cleaning up
the crap that some people think they should enter, but that might be
done
throug
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Bertrand,
I've looked at their site a few days ago and saw something mentioned about
their code being open source. Haven't looked at it further (yet).
I can't help but mention that the documentation on their website looks much
better and much more coherent than Cocoon. S
On 17 Dec 2004, at 10:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be nice if there was a place where the latest release would be
running, so everyone could check it out. I know this requires cleaning
up
the crap that some people think they should enter, but that might be
done
through some simple script
Le 17 déc. 04, à 10:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
I won't talk about the docs - we know ;-)
...What I do like as well, and this might be
easier (as in quicker) to accomplish is the fact that they have live
samples
on their website...
They were discussions a while ago that we might get a virtual
t: Friday, 17 December, 2004 09:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Orbeon vs Cocoon?
Hi Helma,
> ...Has anyone of you looked at Orbeon (www.orbeon.com)?..
There have been discussions here from time to time, search for OXF in
the mailing lists archives.
I've talked to one of their hea
Hi Helma,
...Has anyone of you looked at Orbeon (www.orbeon.com)?..
There have been discussions here from time to time, search for OXF in
the mailing lists archives.
I've talked to one of their head developers a while ago (hmmtwo
years I think, time flies ;-) and my impression was that they
Guys,
Has anyone of you looked at Orbeon (www.orbeon.com)? I came across the site
when looking for eXist info and found a comparison to Cocoon, an old version
of Cocoon looking at the comparison result.
Right now it looks like the website is down. At least I can't get to it.
Bye, Helma
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