Re: Personality in docs (Was: Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?)

2003-08-27 Thread Antonio Gallardo
> I don't mind making the docs a little more "pofessional sounding" but > I'd really, really hate to see the personality stripped from them as > well. We're all people here, not robots. I'd rather read someone's > genuine opinion about why Cocoon kicks so much ass instead of reading > about the

Re: Personality in docs (Was: Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?)

2003-08-26 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Tony Collen wrote: > I don't mind making the docs a little more "pofessional sounding" but > I'd really, really hate to see the personality stripped from them as > well. We're all people here, not robots. I'd rather read someone's > genuine opinion about why Cocoon kicks so

RE: Personality in docs (Was: Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?)

2003-08-26 Thread Chris Clark
- > From: Tony Collen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Personality in docs (Was: Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?) > > Roger I Martin PhD wrote: > > > Right now INSTALL.txt needs some

Re: Personality in docs (Was: Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?)

2003-08-26 Thread Boon Hian Tek
Tony Collen wrote: I don't mind making the docs a little more "pofessional sounding" but I'd really, really hate to see the personality stripped from them as well. We're all people here, not robots. I'd rather read someone's genuine opinion about why Cocoon kicks so much ass instead of readin

Re: Personality in docs (Was: Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?)

2003-08-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 26 aoû 2003, à 18:53 Europe/Zurich, Tony Collen a écrit : ...I don't mind making the docs a little more "pofessional sounding" but I'd really, really hate to see the personality stripped from them as well. We're all people here, not robots. I'd rather read someone's genuine opinion a

Personality in docs (Was: Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?)

2003-08-26 Thread Tony Collen
Roger I Martin PhD wrote: Right now INSTALL.txt needs some things cut out of it: [stuff-snipped] I'd like to point out a few Theses of the Cluetrain which apply here: 14. Corporations do not speak in the same voice as these new networked conversations. To their intended online audiences, compan

Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?

2003-08-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Monday, Aug 25, 2003, at 16:25 Europe/Rome, Roger I Martin PhD wrote: The overview on http://cocoon.apache.org/ gives a good first impression. Where is the person who wrote it? It's the same person: me -- Stefano.

Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?

2003-08-25 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Steven Noels dijo: > Antonio Gallardo wrote: > >> P.S: I dont want to fight with nobody here and I am not trying to >> attack nobody. Please take my message in the most good sense. Really >> we need to work together :) > > ... and your relentless efforts at such are very much appreciated, > Antonio

Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?

2003-08-25 Thread Steven Noels
Antonio Gallardo wrote: P.S: I dont want to fight with nobody here and I am not trying to attack nobody. Please take my message in the most good sense. Really we need to work together :) ... and your relentless efforts at such are very much appreciated, Antonio! -- Steven Noels

Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?

2003-08-25 Thread Michael Wechner
aps someday instead of using email lists we can use a Content Management System where we can link to reference a particular piece of writing we're wanting to discuss. - Original Message - From: "Antonio Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Se

Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?

2003-08-25 Thread Roger I Martin PhD
f quibbling Biblical "scholars":-) Perhaps someday instead of using email lists we can use a Content Management System where we can link to reference a particular piece of writing we're wanting to discuss. - Original Message - From: "Antonio Gallardo" <[EMAIL

Re: 'Production' build for Cocoon?

2003-08-23 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi Roger: Can you write the intro as you suggested? Please don't take this question in the bad sense. I think all of us can help to make a better Cocoon. We are a community with a common interest called Cocoon framework. I meet Cocoon a year ago (I still consider my self a newbie in Cocoon). >Fro

Re: "Production" build for Cocoon?

2003-08-23 Thread Roger I Martin PhD
--- Original Message - From: "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:30 PM Subject: Re: "Production" build for Cocoon? > > On Friday, Aug 22, 2003, at 18:05 Europe/Rome, Roger I Martin PhD wrote: >

Re: "Production" build for Cocoon?

2003-08-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On Friday, Aug 22, 2003, at 18:05 Europe/Rome, Roger I Martin PhD wrote: For Cocoon developers: you need to start thinking of Cocoon as a servlet intended to be used "inside" of your customer's webapp. For Roger I Martin PhD: you need to start reading the mail list archives (or ask) before attem

Re: "Production" build for Cocoon?

2003-08-22 Thread Roger I Martin PhD
essage - From: "Chris Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: RE: "Production" build for Cocoon? Thanks. I was just about to reply saying that the local.*.properties approach doesn't really work

Re: "Production" build for Cocoon?

2003-08-22 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Roger I Martin PhD wrote: standalone-demo build target is one of the worst ways to work with Cocoon; yet alone achieve what Chris is asking. Cocoon is a super charged super powerful servlet that can be used to achieve some pretty amazing results. I've read the INSTALL.txt and it is a excellent e

Re: "Production" build for Cocoon?

2003-08-22 Thread Tony Collen
Roger I Martin PhD wrote: standalone-demo build target is one of the worst ways to work with Cocoon; yet alone achieve what Chris is asking. Cocoon is a super charged super powerful servlet that can be used to achieve some pretty amazing results. I've read the INSTALL.txt and it is a excellent exa

Re: "Production" build for Cocoon?

2003-08-22 Thread Upayavira
Chris, This question really belongs on 'users' list, I would say. But anyway, you need to copy build.properties to local.build.properties and blocks.properties to local.blocks.properties. Then, in local.build.properties remove the # for each of the #exclude.webapp.x lines, and also exclude

RE: "Production" build for Cocoon?

2003-08-22 Thread Chris Clark
w3c lib > -Original Message- > From: Roger I Martin PhD [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: "Production" build for Cocoon? > > standalone-demo build target is one of the worst w

Re: "Production" build for Cocoon?

2003-08-22 Thread Roger I Martin PhD
-- Original Message - From: "Giacomo Pati" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 10:31 AM Subject: RE: "Production" build for Cocoon? > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Chris Clark wrote: > > > Thanks. > > I had read it,

RE: "Production" build for Cocoon?

2003-08-22 Thread Giacomo Pati
g. Hope it helps as we followed it with good success ;-) Giacomo > > > -Original Message- > > From: Giacomo Pati [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 9:25 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Re: "Production&qu

RE: "Production" build for Cocoon?

2003-08-22 Thread Chris Clark
ati [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 9:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: "Production" build for Cocoon? > > > Ever read the INSTALL.txt? > > > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Chris Clark wrote: > > > Just wondering if there&#

Re: "Production" build for Cocoon?

2003-08-22 Thread Giacomo Pati
Ever read the INSTALL.txt? On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Chris Clark wrote: > Just wondering if there's any easy way of making a "Production" build > of Cocoon. The default build compiles all of the samples and makes > them available which is fine for development. However, when we > eventually go "liv

"Production" build for Cocoon?

2003-08-22 Thread Chris Clark
Just wondering if there's any easy way of making a "Production" build of Cocoon. The default build compiles all of the samples and makes them available which is fine for development. However, when we eventually go "live", we'd like to be able to deploy a minimal build that doesn't have the sam