Niclas Hedhman dijo:
> On Saturday 13 September 2003 20:46, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
>> > Writing DOS comes to mind my the interesting means of this abrev.
>> for today world (Denial of services) I wonder think of what will
>> means Windows
>> > in the future of the Internet!
>>
>> what about
>>
>>
On Saturday 13 September 2003 20:46, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> > Writing DOS comes to mind my the interesting means of this abrev. for
> > today world (Denial of services) I wonder think of what will means
> > Windows
> > in the future of the Internet!
>
> what about
>
> Windows Intruding Nicely D
Stefano Mazzocchi dijo:
>
> On Thursday, Sep 4, 2003, at 16:21 Europe/Rome, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>
>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>>
>>> Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
Giacomo Pati wrote:
>> I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible
> from here right
>> now - only the tu
On Thursday, Sep 4, 2003, at 16:21 Europe/Rome, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
Giacomo Pati wrote:
I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible
from here right
now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger :)
Go blame you IS
On Thursday, Sep 4, 2003, at 16:13 Europe/Rome, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Giacomo Pati dijo:
Have a look at
http://quartz.sourceforge.net/javadoc/org/quartz/CronTrigger.html
for more details.
I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible from
here
right now - only the tutorial. And
On Thursday, Sep 4, 2003, at 08:27 Europe/Rome, Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
I expect the average new Cocoon user is also a Windows user
(though I could be wrong). So why are the snapshots not in .zip
format?
FYI: WinZip supports tar.gz files just fine.
That may be (and I suspected as much), but WinZip
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
a comment by Vadim:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=106096301526641&w=2
My comment has nothing to do with proxies. As Joerg found out, this is
the problem with M$ html "extensions" and XPath:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoo
> > It's not a matter of sophistication. It's a matter of easing the user's
> > entry into developing with Cocoon. It's inconsistent to offer a .zip for
> > one download and not for another.
>
> As was posted before, the nightly snapshots are finding his own end life.
> The cvs are superseed this t
Jeff Ramsdale dijo:
>> > Asking a user to download and install another software
>> > package is out of the question. They have perfectly capable
>> > .zip functionality already on their system. We provide a .zip
>> > file for the latest distribution, why night the nightly snapshot?
>>
>> It seems t
> > Asking a user to download and install another software
> > package is out of the question. They have perfectly capable
> > .zip functionality already on their system. We provide a .zip
> > file for the latest distribution, why night the nightly snapshot?
>
> It seems to me that if a user is sop
Hunsberger, Peter wrote:
Jeff Ramsdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asks:
Asking a user to download and install another software
package is out of the question. They have perfectly capable
.zip functionality already on their system. We provide a .zip
file for the latest distribution, why night the nig
--- "Hunsberger, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> If you really think it's necessary we could place links to the necessary
> unzip tools on the download pages...
Lets add the links, just to be friendly to the users.
--Tim Larson
__
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Si
Jeff Ramsdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asks:
> Asking a user to download and install another software
> package is out of the question. They have perfectly capable
> .zip functionality already on their system. We provide a .zip
> file for the latest distribution, why night the nightly snapshot?
It
> >>> I expect the average new Cocoon user is also a Windows user (though I
> >>> could be wrong). So why are the snapshots not in .zip format?
>
> Because there are too big for download and waste broandband ;)
Versus downloading from CVS, which was the suggestion from the initial
fictitious conv
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>
> > Giacomo Pati wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>please look at the other thread (Cron Block). I added
> >>>an addPeriodicJob() method to your scheduler to allow
> >>>periodic invocation (in seconds).
> >>>
> >>>With that change I'm able to
Giacomo Pati dijo:
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>
>> Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
>> > Giacomo Pati wrote:
>> >> > I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible
>> >> from here right
>> >> > now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger
>> :)
>> >>
>> >>
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Giacomo Pati wrote:
please look at the other thread (Cron Block). I added
an addPeriodicJob() method to your scheduler to allow
periodic invocation (in seconds).
With that change I'm able to convert to your scheduler
and we can forget the cornerstone one (and 5 jar files.
Whops! I ment to mail to Carsten (as he and I had conversations about
this before the scheduler switch)
Sorry.
David Kavanagh wrote:
So, if I followed all the scheduler stuff going back and forth for the
past week, the Quartz scheduler is being used and your scheduler stuff
uses it now.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
With WinXP, most people (meaning at least me) don't bother with WinZip
because XP has .zip support built in. Of course I do have to resort to
Cygwin for tar.gz or even tar.bz2 files--but that's just me.
Please join "THE GPL CLUB" in this arena ;) When I need to go down
>
> > Seriously, here in Latin America this is a kind of native drink.
>
> One gets "native" very soon drinking the "corn" Carsten means ;-)
>
> > In my
> > country it is called "chicha bruja" Also the indians has another drink
> > using corn it is destilled alcohol called "cususa". :)
>
> Corn fro
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
> > Giacomo Pati wrote:
> >> > I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible
> >> from here right
> >> > now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger :)
> >>
> >> Go blame you ISP :-)
> >>
> > Or
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>
> Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
> > Giacomo Pati wrote:
> >> > I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible
> >> from here right
> >> > now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger :)
> >>
> >> Go blame you ISP :-)
> >>
> > Or I can drink some
Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
> Giacomo Pati wrote:
>> > I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible
>> from here right
>> > now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger :)
>>
>> Go blame you ISP :-)
>>
> Or I can drink some "corn" until I forget about it :)
Do you mea
Giacomo Pati dijo:
>> > Have a look at
>> > http://quartz.sourceforge.net/javadoc/org/quartz/CronTrigger.html
>> for more details.
>> >
>> I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible from here
>> right now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger
>> :)
>
> Go bla
Giacomo Pati wrote:
> > I would love to, but it is - for any reason - not accessible
> from here right
> > now - only the tutorial. And there I found the periodic trigger :)
>
> Go blame you ISP :-)
>
Or I can drink some "corn" until I forget about it :)
Carsten
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Giacomo Pati wrote:
> > > >
> > > Yes, this is easy for each second, but what when I want to schedule the
> > > job, let's say every 5 seconds or every 80 minutes?
> >
> > You don't know cron, don't you?
> >
> No, and the expert I ask, suggested to wri
Giacomo Pati wrote:
> > >
> > Yes, this is easy for each second, but what when I want to schedule the
> > job, let's say every 5 seconds or every 80 minutes?
>
> You don't know cron, don't you?
>
No, and the expert I ask, suggested to write 0,5,10,... * * * * :)
> every 5 second: */5 * * * *
> e
Berin Loritsch dijo:
> Miles Elam wrote:
>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>
>>> I expect the average new Cocoon user is also a Windows user (though I
>>> could be wrong). So why are the snapshots not in .zip format?
Because there are too big for download and waste broandband ;)
>> FYI: WinZip supports t
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Giacomo Pati wrote:
>
> > > please look at the other thread (Cron Block). I added
> > > an addPeriodicJob() method to your scheduler to allow
> > > periodic invocation (in seconds).
> > >
> > > With that change I'm able to convert to your scheduler
> >
: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1
So, if I followed all the scheduler stuff going back and forth for the past
week, the Quartz scheduler is being used and your scheduler stuff uses it
now. I just wanted to wait for the dust to settle before
So, if I followed all the scheduler stuff going back and forth for the
past week, the Quartz scheduler is being used and your scheduler stuff
uses it now. I just wanted to wait for the dust to settle before
thinking about getting some other functionality moved into your
scheduler. If/When I get
Giacomo Pati wrote:
> > please look at the other thread (Cron Block). I added
> > an addPeriodicJob() method to your scheduler to allow
> > periodic invocation (in seconds).
> >
> > With that change I'm able to convert to your scheduler
> > and we can forget the cornerstone one (and 5 jar files...
Miles Elam wrote:
Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
I expect the average new Cocoon user is also a Windows user (though I
could be wrong). So why are the snapshots not in .zip format?
FYI: WinZip supports tar.gz files just fine.
With WinXP, most people (meaning at least me) don't bother with WinZip
becaus
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Giacomo Pati wrote:
> > > I will have a look at the cron block right now.
> >
> > Thanks, awaiting your comments :-)
> >
> Hi Giacomo,
>
> please look at the other thread (Cron Block). I added
> an addPeriodicJob() method to your scheduler to allow
> p
Giacomo Pati wrote:
> > I will have a look at the cron block right now.
>
> Thanks, awaiting your comments :-)
>
Hi Giacomo,
please look at the other thread (Cron Block). I added
an addPeriodicJob() method to your scheduler to allow
periodic invocation (in seconds).
With that change I'm able t
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Giacomo Pati wrote:
> > One thing I'd like to put in:
> >
> > Now that the new Corn block has been added, can we get rid of the
> > Cornerstone Scheduler? If we can, it would never appear in ANY release.
> >
> Corn? Nice. You know, if you go into a pub
Giacomo Pati wrote:
> One thing I'd like to put in:
>
> Now that the new Corn block has been added, can we get rid of the
> Cornerstone Scheduler? If we can, it would never appear in ANY release.
>
Corn? Nice. You know, if you go into a pub you often order "a beer and
a corn (=booze)". Ok, I'm dr
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Andrew Savory wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Steven Noels wrote:
>
> > IMHO, it's simply unworkable to have major stuff going on in one module,
> > over two branches, at the same time.
>
> In CVS, I've always found branches == pain.
Can you explain you pains? I've found it quite
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
> From: Reinhard Poetz
>
> > From: Bruno Dumon
> >
> > > On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 12:01, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> > >
> > > > As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I
> > > propose to do the
> > > > release this friday.
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
>
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Thanks to Bruno we have a solution (or workaround)
> for the CommandManager problem. Great!
>
> So afaik we don't have another blocker for the 2.1.1 release.
>
> As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose
> to do the release this frid
> >I expect the average new Cocoon user is also a Windows user
> (though I could be wrong). So why are the snapshots not in .zip format?
> >
> >
>
> FYI: WinZip supports tar.gz files just fine.
That may be (and I suspected as much), but WinZip would be another download
for a user who just wants to
Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
I expect the average new Cocoon user is also a Windows user (though I could be wrong). So why are the snapshots not in .zip format?
FYI: WinZip supports tar.gz files just fine.
- Miles Elam
> >If all the cool features that users want to play with are in the HEAD via
> >Subversion, you might think about easing the path to entry for the new
> >user...
> >
> >
>
> Ain't this (http://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/cocoon-2.1/) easy enough? :)
>
> Vadim
For a moment I was going to acquiesce, bu
Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
If all the cool features that users want to play with are in the HEAD via
Subversion, you might think about easing the path to entry for the new
user...
Ain't this (http://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/cocoon-2.1/) easy enough? :)
Vadim
> > IMHO, it's simply unworkable to have major stuff going on in one module,
> > over two branches, at the same time.
>
> In CVS, I've always found branches == pain.
>
> I appreciate a move to something like subversion is quite a revolution,
> and I'd suggest it's something best kept for the next "
> From: Andrew Savory
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Steven Noels wrote:
>
> > IMHO, it's simply unworkable to have major stuff going on in one
> > module, over two branches, at the same time.
>
> In CVS, I've always found branches == pain.
>
> I appreciate a move to something like subversion is quite
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
From: Carsten Ziegeler
Im really tired of discussing this (it's not your fault, Reinhard).
I suggested again and again to start a new repository for 2.2
(which is equivalent to starting a 2.2 branch - or a 2.1.x
branch), but I always got the reply "let's see if we really
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose
to do the release this friday.
+1 for Friday
Geoff
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Steven Noels wrote:
> IMHO, it's simply unworkable to have major stuff going on in one module,
> over two branches, at the same time.
In CVS, I've always found branches == pain.
I appreciate a move to something like subversion is quite a revolution,
and I'd suggest it's somet
Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>
>> +1 ;) But please include:
>>
>> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13070
>>
> I will apply the patch asap. Thanks Antonio!
>
> Could you please provide some docs as well for using the
> logicsheet in the correct xml format. Somet
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>
> +1 ;) But please include:
>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13070
>
I will apply the patch asap. Thanks Antonio!
Could you please provide some docs as well for using the
logicsheet in the correct xml format. Something like you
have in the readme p
Steven Noels wrote:
I'm +1 on a 2.2 module, and +1 on 2.1.1 on Friday. Fortress might be
something for 2.2 rather than 2.1.1, but I'll leave that to the people
^
duh: 2.1.x, of course
--
Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/
Outer
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
I haven't got it: How are we able to release e.g. 2.1.2 without a
branch/new repository without using e.g. Fortress as container (nothing
against Fortress, I'm no specialist in these container things and maybe
this is the reason for my concerns)? I would like to give us some
From: Antonio Gallardo
> Timothy Larson dijo:
> > --- Reinhard Poetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ...
> >> I think so many people (of course including me) were
> waiting for 2.1
> >> and I really want to use it for some time in production
> without doing
> >> alpha/beta testing of 2.2 and I
Timothy Larson dijo:
> --- Reinhard Poetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
>> I think so many people (of course including me) were waiting for 2.1
>> and I really want to use it for some time in production without doing
>> alpha/beta testing of 2.2 and I like to have "support" of bugfix
>> releases
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
Since we decided that we don't like creating new repositories nor CVS branches, I assume this will be the last release in the 2.1.x series?
If this doesn't mean that we wait another 18 months or so until releasing 2.2 ... ;)
more ser
--- Reinhard Poetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> I think so many people (of course including me) were waiting for 2.1 and
> I really want to use it for some time in production without doing
> alpha/beta testing of 2.2 and I like to have "support" of bugfix
> releases of 2.1 (see the security hol
Nicola Ken Barozzi dijo:
>
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote, On 03/09/2003 12.01:
> ...
>> As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose
>> to do the release this friday.
>
> +1
+1 ;) But please include:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13070
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallar
From: Vadim Gritsenko
> Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
> >a comment by Vadim:
> >http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=106096301526641&w=2
> >
> >
> >
>
> My comment has nothing to do with proxies. As Joerg found
> out, this is
> the problem with M$ html "extensions" and XPath:
>
ht
- I think Vadim and Jörg worked on this issue.
Reinhard
-Original Message-
From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
One question: Has the issue w
From: Steven Noels
> Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
> > I understand your feelings ...
> >
> > IMO we should be able to release 2.1.x version in the
> future. Mabe I'm
> > a bit afraid of the changes (blocks, fortress, virtual sitemap
> > components) and how long it takes us to release stable versi
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
I understand your feelings ...
IMO we should be able to release 2.1.x version in the future. Mabe I'm a
bit afraid of the changes (blocks, fortress, virtual sitemap components)
and how long it takes us to release stable versions of Cocoon (not beta,
not milestone or somethin
From: Carsten Ziegeler
> Im really tired of discussing this (it's not your fault, Reinhard).
>
> I suggested again and again to start a new repository for 2.2
> (which is equivalent to starting a 2.2 branch - or a 2.1.x
> branch), but I always got the reply "let's see if we really
> need 2.2,
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
more seriously: How do we deal with bugfix releases in the future if we
don't have a branch or another repository?
Like we do with 2.0.x? It's just a matter of releasing, actually.
--
Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Sourc
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> > > Since we decided that we don't like creating new repositories
> > > nor CVS branches, I assume this will be the last release in
> > > the 2.1.x series?
> >
> > If this doesn't mean that we wait another 18 months or so
> > until releasing 2.2 ... ;)
>
> more seriously: Ho
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Thanks to Bruno we have a solution (or workaround)
for the CommandManager problem. Great!
So afaik we don't have another blocker for the 2.1.1 release.
As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose
to do the release this friday.
The alternatives are:
- som
From: Reinhard Poetz
> From: Bruno Dumon
>
> > On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 12:01, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> >
> > > As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I
> > propose to do the
> > > release this friday.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Since we decided that we don't like creating new repositories
From: Bruno Dumon
> On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 12:01, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>
> > As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I
> propose to do the
> > release this friday.
>
> +1
>
> Since we decided that we don't like creating new repositories
> nor CVS branches, I assume this will be
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 12:01, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose
> to do the release this friday.
+1
Since we decided that we don't like creating new repositories nor CVS
branches, I assume this will be the last release in the 2.1.x series?
--
ard
> -Original Message-
> From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Vote] Releasing 2.1.1
>
>
> Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> > One question: Has the issue wit
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> One question: Has the issue with proxies been solved?
>
Do you have a pointer?
Carsten
From: Carsten Ziegeler
> Thanks to Bruno we have a solution (or workaround)
> for the CommandManager problem. Great!
>
> So afaik we don't have another blocker for the 2.1.1 release.
>
> As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose
> to do the release this friday.
>
> The alt
Carsten Ziegeler wrote, On 03/09/2003 12.01:
...
As I'm going on vacation starting saturday (yeah), I propose
to do the release this friday.
+1
--
Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- verba volant, scripta manent -
(discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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