[resources] Website

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
i've uploaded the tidied and regenerated site: http://commons.apache.org/resources/ - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 17, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Matt Benson wrote: Or, to put it another way, the consensus seems to be that the component + the major version # makes a project. As I've said before, I won't try and stop this, I no longer have the moral rights here. I do believe

Re: [resources] Supported Build Tools

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
Mohammady Mahdy wrote: Guys I am glad to see this project coming back to life, the viewvc and repository url on the site are broken though: jakarta/commons/proper/resources/trunk: unknown location Can you send the ones you are using ? it takes a few hours for the site to sync: try again

Re: [resources] Website

2009-05-18 Thread Mohammady Mahdy
The repository link still doesn't work: ViewVCException: 404 Not Found: commons/proper/resources/trunk: unknown location On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: i've uploaded the tidied and regenerated site:

Re: [resources] Supported Build Tools

2009-05-18 Thread Mohammady Mahdy
Planning to do so :) will jump the JIRA once I return today, let me know if there is something specific I can help with. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Mohammady Mahdy wrote: Guys I am glad to see this project coming back to

[resources] Missing Headers

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
RAT reports a number of documents with missing headers are we just going to assume that the provenance is fine but they were forgotten, or do we need to do more digging? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

[resources] Self Contained Documentation...?

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
the site has links into the wiki for a class diagram and a user guide. is this enough of a bother to remove the links or create new documentation? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: On May 17, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Matt Benson wrote: Or, to put it another way, the consensus seems to be that the component + the major version # makes a project. As I've said before, I

[LANG] Rewrite StringEscapeUtils [Was: [jira] Commented: (LANG-505) Rewrite StringEscapeUtils]

2009-05-18 Thread Henri Yandell
So this is more noticeable. I'm starting to play with a rewritten StringEscapeUtils system. escapeSql is going to get deleted, the others will sit on top of a modular system. At least that's the proposal - more in the ticket. First pass at the code was educational - second pass should be

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 17, 2009, at 11:39 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: HttpClient is another example that is complained about by users :) The only saving grace of v4 is that it is now named HttpComponents Core (fitting Stephen's suggestion of a new name). Of course that means users are also confused due to

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Jörg Schaible
Matt Benson wrote at Sonntag, 17. Mai 2009 22:31: --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Matt Benson gudnabr...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 5/13/09, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote: [snip] The point (at least mine) is that we don't *need* to create a new project here. We have the

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 18, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: I think we more or less all agree that such a new component should play nice with an older version in the classpath. However, while I am all for evolving the current project with a new major release, we have to consider that it is not

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Jörg Schaible
Ralph Goers wrote at Montag, 18. Mai 2009 09:53: On May 18, 2009, at 12:19 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: I think we more or less all agree that such a new component should play nice with an older version in the classpath. However, while I am all for evolving the current project with a new

AW: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Mark Struberg
good point. The correct groupId should be org.apache.commons Sadly this is true for a few projects like commons.lang, but it's not true for all projects, since a few commons projects already use the 'correct' groupId. Also, this approach would not scale in the future. LieGrue, strub -

Re: Fix for race condition in forceMkdir

2009-05-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, of which project are you talking about? VFS? Please put the components name in your subject, like: [vfs] Fix for race condition in forceMkdir to be heard. The issue is not attached to the mail. Please make sure you additonally added it to a Jira issue. if there is none, please create one :-)

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC2 (Rev: 774630)

2009-05-18 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2009-05-18, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/05/2009, Oliver Heger oliver.he...@oliver-heger.de wrote: I think md5 checksums are required for all artifacts. They are currently missing. Agreed. Could perhaps add sha1 as well, but not essential md5s and sha1s are now there and match.

Re: svn commit: r775434 - /commons/proper/lang/trunk/pom.xml

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 16/05/2009, bay...@apache.org bay...@apache.org wrote: Author: bayard Date: Sat May 16 08:36:51 2009 New Revision: 775434 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=775434view=rev Log: Letting PMD know we're on 1.5 Modified: commons/proper/lang/trunk/pom.xml Modified:

Re: [math] Re: commons-math, matrix-toolkits-java and consolidation

2009-05-18 Thread Sam Halliday
Excellent :-) I think the consensus is to keep the sparse interfaces empty for now... don't want to lock ourselves into anything without detailed discussion, which there is no time for before 2.0. Just drop a note into the Javadocs to the effect that methods may be added in the next release. I

Re: [resources] Website

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
Mohammady Mahdy wrote: The repository link still doesn't work: ViewVCException: 404 Not Found: commons/proper/resources/trunk: unknown location it still looks fine to me :-/ i have Last Published: 17 May 2009. what do you have? - robert

Re: [resources] Supported Build Tools

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
Mohammady Mahdy wrote: Planning to do so :) will jump the JIRA once I return today, let me know if there is something specific I can help with. cool i don't have any specific tasks (other than JIRA) ATM but if anyone does, hopefully they'll jump in... - robert

Re: [resources] Website

2009-05-18 Thread Mohammady Mahdy
The link from: http://commons.apache.org/resources/source-repository.html is working correctly. The browse link on: http://commons.apache.org/resources/ is not though. Thanks for updating. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

Re: [resources] Website

2009-05-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
The link from: http://commons.apache.org/resources/source-repository.html is working correctly. The browse link on: http://commons.apache.org/resources/ is not though. This link points to proper instead of sandbox Cheers -

Re: [resources] Website

2009-05-18 Thread Mohammady Mahdy
Thanks ^^ On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: The link from: http://commons.apache.org/resources/source-repository.html is working correctly. The browse link on: http://commons.apache.org/resources/ is not though. This link points to proper

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
On May 18, 2009, at 2:39 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: HttpClient is another example that is complained about by users :) The only saving grace of v4 is that it is now named HttpComponents Core (fitting Stephen's suggestion of a new name). Well, this is kinda appropriate because I really have

commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello all, I have created an empty Maven project with groupId commons-logging, artifactId commons-logging and version 0.0.0-EMPTY. There is very little content (around 500 bytes) in the whole project. This is to be expected as the original aim was to produce an empty jar file. For the actual

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread nicolas de loof
The POM should include SCM path, url to commons-logging site and licensing metadata Maybe you could also include the blog extract as description / comment. The description explains the jar is empty but not why it is there 2009/5/18 Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch Hello all, I have created an empty

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote: From: Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de Subject: Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects To: dev@commons.apache.org Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 2:19 AM Matt Benson wrote at Sonntag, 17. Mai 2009 22:31: --- On Sun,

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: Hello all, I have created an empty Maven project with groupId commons-logging, artifactId commons-logging and version 0.0.0-EMPTY. There is very little content (around 500 bytes) in the whole project. This is to be expected as the original aim

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Mon, 5/18/09, nicolas de loof nicolas.del...@gmail.com wrote: From: nicolas de loof nicolas.del...@gmail.com Subject: Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 8:39 AM The POM should include SCM path, url

request for karma

2009-05-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
If possible, I'd like karma for commons-sandbox. Also, I will doing some work on cli and dbcp (to start) and if the PMC would like to give me prelim-karma for that as well, that would be appreciated :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
nicolas de loof wrote: The POM should include SCM path, url to commons-logging site and licensing metadata Done. Note that I've used the url for for svn in commons/proper/trunk. Maybe you could also include the blog extract as description / comment. The description explains the jar is

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Matt Benson wrote: For the actual source code, see https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/sandbox/logging_empty/trunk/ Just to point out: the final location of this code should AIUI BE a branch under logging/branches... the current structure isn't harming anything at the moment, however.

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
sebb wrote: It would be useful if the Manifest included the following details: Implementation-Title: commons-logging Implementation-Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation Implementation-Vendor-Id: org.apache Implementation-Version: 0.0.0-EMPTY Specification-Title: commons-logging

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: sebb wrote: It would be useful if the Manifest included the following details: Implementation-Title: commons-logging Implementation-Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation Implementation-Vendor-Id: org.apache Implementation-Version:

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
sebb wrote: On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: sebb wrote: It would be useful if the Manifest included the following details: Implementation-Title: commons-logging Implementation-Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation Implementation-Vendor-Id: org.apache Implementation-Version:

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: From: Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch Subject: Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 9:14 AM Matt Benson wrote: For the actual source code, see

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: sebb wrote: On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: sebb wrote: It would be useful if the Manifest included the following details: Implementation-Title: commons-logging Implementation-Vendor: The Apache

Re: [sanselan] Next steps

2009-05-18 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
So where are we now with moving/graduating Sanselan? Regards Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: request for karma

2009-05-18 Thread Henri Yandell
What kind of work are we talking about? ie) What's the sandbox karma for - we're nosy and like to hear about ideas :) For CLI/DBCP - if it's a lot of work then that's a good place to work on things in the sandbox. If rather it's some bugfixes, then best is to attach them as patches to JIRA

[CLI] 1.2 [Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects]

2009-05-18 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 2:39 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: HttpClient is another example that is complained about by users :) The only saving grace of v4 is that it is now named HttpComponents Core (fitting Stephen's suggestion

Re: [CLI] 1.2 [Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects]

2009-05-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
On May 18, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On May 18, 2009, at 2:39 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: HttpClient is another example that is complained about by users :) The only saving grace of v4 is that it is now

Re: request for karma

2009-05-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
eg: for cli, I find the default help/usage text much too limiting; it would be nice to be able to have that completely under user control with some sort of templating interface. It would also be cool if that could also drive the parser being used (by defining usage formating string, the matching

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello, Thank you for this suggestion. Unfortunately, adding references to parent pom, addDefaultImplementationEntries and addDefaultSpecificationEntries creates a manifest file which includes OSGi directives, which is really not desirable. I changed the contents of the name element to

Re: svn commit: r776006 - /commons/sandbox/logging_empty/trunk/pom.xml

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 18/05/2009, c...@apache.org c...@apache.org wrote: Author: ceki Date: Mon May 18 16:47:32 2009 New Revision: 776006 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=776006view=rev Log: name correction Huh? Modified: commons/sandbox/logging_empty/trunk/pom.xml Modified:

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: Hello, Thank you for this suggestion. Unfortunately, adding references to parent pom, addDefaultImplementationEntries and addDefaultSpecificationEntries creates a manifest file which includes OSGi directives, which is really not desirable.

Re: request for karma

2009-05-18 Thread Phil Steitz
Jim Jagielski wrote: eg: for cli, I find the default help/usage text much too limiting; it would be nice to be able to have that completely under user control with some sort of templating interface. It would also be cool if that could also drive the parser being used (by defining usage formating

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, On May 18, 2009, at 10:00 AM, sebb wrote: On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: Hello, Thank you for this suggestion. Unfortunately, adding references to parent pom, addDefaultImplementationEntries and addDefaultSpecificationEntries creates a manifest file which includes OSGi

Re: svn commit: r776006 - /commons/sandbox/logging_empty/trunk/pom.xml

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
sebb wrote: On 18/05/2009, c...@apache.org c...@apache.org wrote: Author: ceki Date: Mon May 18 16:47:32 2009 New Revision: 776006 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=776006view=rev Log: name correction Huh? My bad. I has forgotten to save my changes in the editor before

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@sun.com wrote: From: Craig L Russell craig.russ...@sun.com Subject: Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 12:18 PM Hi, On May 18, 2009, at 10:00 AM, sebb

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Craig L Russell wrote: Just for my information, why is it not desirable to package this as an OSGi compliant jar? Because we would not want an empty bundle containing no classes to usurp the place of the real commons-logging OSGi bundle. Also, why is the maven group id commons-logging and

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
sebb wrote: I just tried, and using the default tags works OK for me. What default tags have you tried exactly? -- Ceki Gülcü Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java. http://logback.qos.ch

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Craig L Russell
Thanks, Matt and Ceki. It's all clear now. Craig On May 18, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Ceki Gulcu wrote: Craig L Russell wrote: Just for my information, why is it not desirable to package this as an OSGi compliant jar? Because we would not want an empty bundle containing no classes to usurp the

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC2 (Rev: 774630)

2009-05-18 Thread Jörg Schaible
+1 Could build from the src package running all tests with my complete compiler zoo. - Jörg Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hi all, RC2 is based on SVN revision: 774630 It includes minor changes on the site, corrects svn properties and makes a testcase run on win xp. Please vote: Tag:

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread sebb
On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: sebb wrote: I just tried, and using the default tags works OK for me. What default tags have you tried exactly? The manifest ones I mentioned: manifest

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
sebb wrote: On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: sebb wrote: I just tried, and using the default tags works OK for me. What default tags have you tried exactly? The manifest ones I mentioned: manifest

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
The relevant element should have been inserted within manifest element and not manifestEntries. Issue solved now. Thank you for your help. Ceki Gulcu wrote: sebb wrote: On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: sebb wrote: I just tried, and using the default tags works OK for me.

Re: [resources] Website

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
Mohammady Mahdy wrote: Thanks ^^ On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: The link from: http://commons.apache.org/resources/source-repository.html is working correctly. The browse link on: http://commons.apache.org/resources/ is not though. This

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Ceki Gulcu wrote: Hello all, I have created an empty Maven project with groupId commons-logging, artifactId commons-logging and version 0.0.0-EMPTY. There is very little content (around 500 bytes) in the whole project. This is to be expected as the original aim was to produce an empty jar

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-18 Thread Dennis Lundberg
Craig L Russell wrote: Hi, On May 18, 2009, at 10:00 AM, sebb wrote: On 18/05/2009, Ceki Gulcu c...@qos.ch wrote: Hello, Thank you for this suggestion. Unfortunately, adding references to parent pom, addDefaultImplementationEntries and addDefaultSpecificationEntries creates a

Re: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC2 (Rev: 774630)

2009-05-18 Thread Torsten Curdt
also +1 from me! On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 19:39, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote: +1 Could build from the src package running all tests with my complete compiler zoo. - Jörg Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hi all, RC2 is based on SVN revision: 774630 It includes minor changes on

Re: request for karma

2009-05-18 Thread Henri Yandell
Sounds good. If no one does it, I'll make the SVN karma change tonight to add you to the sandbox. If you have karma to do that, feel free. General approach for proper is to either work on a dev proposal in sandbox if you have a lot, or to work on issues in JIRA via patches. Hen On Mon, May 18,

[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Commons - Commons Pool -

2009-05-18 Thread contin...@vmbuild.apache.org
Online report : http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=191999projectId=116 Build statistics: State: Failed Previous State: Ok Started at: Mon 18 May 2009 13:31:41 -0700 Finished at: Mon 18 May 2009 13:34:02 -0700 Total time: 2m 21s Build Trigger: Schedule

Re: Time for a POOL 1.5 release?

2009-05-18 Thread Mark Thomas
Phil Steitz wrote: Mark Thomas wrote: I have finished working my way through the open POOL bugs. Of the remaining issues, 2 are bugs that only affect the 2.0 branch and rest are improvements. Given that Tomcat is waiting on a DBCP release and DBCP is waiting on a POOL release I would like

[continuum] BUILD SUCCESSFUL: Commons - Commons Pool -

2009-05-18 Thread contin...@vmbuild.apache.org
Online report : http://vmbuild.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=192004projectId=116 Build statistics: State: Ok Previous State: Failed Started at: Mon 18 May 2009 14:31:30 -0700 Finished at: Mon 18 May 2009 14:33:39 -0700 Total time: 2m 9s Build Trigger: Schedule

Re: request for karma

2009-05-18 Thread Torsten Curdt
Ouch! Wanted to do it but got $ svn up svn: REPORT of '/repos/asf/!svn/vcc/default': Could not read chunk size: Secure connection truncated (https://svn.apache.org) instead. Maybe try later? Me now - bed. cheers -- Torsten On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 22:29, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Stephen Colebourne
Matt Benson wrote: Which still resounds with my preceding statement, though I admittedly hadn't thought it through that far. So anytime the API changes in a breaking way we need to jump major versions, append the new major version to the component name for the m2 artifact, and do likewise

Re: [all] Rebooting commons projects

2009-05-18 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 18, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: As a minimum, major changes require a package name change, and as has been pointed out a maven id change. So: (1) minor incompatible changes (remove long deprecated methods or fix details at the edges). These are compatible for 99%

Re: [math] Re: commons-math, matrix-toolkits-java and consolidation

2009-05-18 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: Sam Halliday sam.halli...@gmail.com To: dev@commons.apache.org Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [math] Re: commons-math, matrix-toolkits-java and consolidation Excellent :-) I think the consensus is to keep the sparse interfaces empty for