Re: [math] Serialization

2009-05-23 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: "Luc Maisonobe" To: "Commons Developers List" Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [math] Serialization [I changed the subject to help follow the thread] Phil Steitz a écrit : Luc Maisonobe wrote: Ted Dunning a écrit : In favor or not, Ser

Re: commons-math, matrix-toolkits-java and consolidation

2009-05-23 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Hmm. It's a really great idea. I think It could be a top level math project of apache. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Sam Halliday wrote: > > Edward, Hama looks fantastic! I fully agree, 'distributed' isn't agreeable > with commons-math. However, there might be parts of it that are relevant to

Re: Moving doaps Was: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC2 (Rev: 774630)

2009-05-23 Thread sebb
On 23/05/2009, Henri Yandell wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:01 AM, sebb wrote: > > On 22/05/2009, Henri Yandell wrote: > >> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:22 AM, sebb wrote: > >> > >> > [I think the DOAP files should not be in trunk at all] > >> > >> Agreed. We should move them up a dire

Re: [compress] Two issues with releasing the release

2009-05-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
>> Next dev. snapshot is 1.1. > > One has to wonder why we put the version number on the site :) It's > completely meaningless and just leads to confusion. > > I think it dates in Maven from the notion that your site would be your > documentation. However websites serve a completely different purpo

Re: [COLLECTIONS] 3.3 RC1 for review

2009-05-23 Thread sebb
On 23/05/2009, Henri Yandell wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:56 AM, sebb wrote: > > On 22/05/2009, Henri Yandell wrote: > >> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:24 AM, sebb wrote: > >> > On 21/05/2009, Henri Yandell wrote: > >> >> I don't expect this to pass the first vote - they never do :) >

Re: [compress] Two issues with releasing the release

2009-05-23 Thread sebb
On 23/05/2009, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> Next dev. snapshot is 1.1. > > > > One has to wonder why we put the version number on the site :) It's > > completely meaningless and just leads to confusion. > > > > I think it dates in Maven from the notion that your site would be your > > doc

Re: [ALL] fix site doc version so it agrees with release [was: [compress] Two issues with releasing the release]

2009-05-23 Thread sebb
On 23/05/2009, Henri Yandell wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:14 AM, sebb wrote: > > On 22/05/2009, Rahul Akolkar wrote: > >> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:08 AM, sebb wrote: > >> > On 22/05/2009, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> >> > Another minor glitch I noticed just now. All pages seem

Re: commons-logging version 0.0.0-EMPTY

2009-05-23 Thread Ceki Gulcu
sebb wrote: Given that this process has stalled It has indeed stalled. Nevertheless, it was an interesting discussion. The openness demonstrated by this group is unusual as it is refreshing. It seems that ultimately the status quo (inaction) won the day which is not entirely surprising in the

Re: [ALL] fix site doc version so it agrees with release [was: [compress] Two issues with releasing the release]

2009-05-23 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:57 PM, sebb wrote: > On 23/05/2009, Rahul Akolkar wrote: >> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:01 PM, sebb wrote: >>  > On 22/05/2009, Rahul Akolkar wrote: >>  >> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:14 AM, sebb wrote: >>  >>  > On 22/05/2009, Rahul Akolkar wrote: >>  >>  >> On Fri, May

[math] Apache Math TLP? [WAS Re: [math] top-level package name]

2009-05-23 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
(apologies for jumping in half way through) luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: > Hello, > > Considering the ongoing discussion in another thread, the current changes > that have been done on > [math] for the last months belong to the major changes with large > incompatibilities with previous version

[resources] To Fix Or Not To Fix...

2009-05-23 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
that is the question having taken a look at the JIRAs, most seem to be tangled up with API revisions... i suppose this brings us to the fundamental question: whether to ship basically the API we have, or to engage in a redesign exercise. opinions? - robert

Re: [math] Apache Math TLP? [WAS Re: [math] top-level package name]

2009-05-23 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > (apologies for jumping in half way through) > > luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Considering the ongoing discussion in another thread, the current changes >> that have been done on >> [math] for the last months belong to

Re: [resources] To Fix Or Not To Fix...

2009-05-23 Thread Mohammady Mahdy
+1 for redesigning. mainly, the JDBC resource and maybe generifying the APIs On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin < robertburrelldon...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > that is the question > > having taken a look at the JIRAs, most seem to be tangled up with API > revisions... > > i

Re: commons-math, matrix-toolkits-java and consolidation

2009-05-23 Thread Jin Mingjian
I like the idea about the "top level math project":) Is it possible or interesting to host a sub-project for DSL to commons-math?(such as an enhanced Object-supported matlab-compatible script) 2009/5/23 Edward J. Yoon > Hmm. It's a really great idea. > > I think It could be a top level math pro

Re: [math] Apache Math TLP? [WAS Re: [math] top-level package name]

2009-05-23 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Rahul Akolkar a écrit : > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin > wrote: >> (apologies for jumping in half way through) >> >> luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Considering the ongoing discussion in another thread, the current changes >>> that have been done on >>> [

Re: svn commit: r777065 [2/2] - in /commons/proper/pool/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/pool: ./ impl/

2009-05-23 Thread sebb
On 21/05/2009, Rainer Jung wrote: > On 21.05.2009 13:12, pste...@apache.org wrote: > > Modified: > commons/proper/pool/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/pool/impl/GenericObjectPool.java > > URL: > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/pool/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/pool/impl/Gene

Re: [math] Apache Math TLP? [WAS Re: [math] top-level package name]

2009-05-23 Thread Phil Steitz
Luc Maisonobe wrote: Rahul Akolkar a écrit : On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: (apologies for jumping in half way through) luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Hello, Considering the ongoing discussion in another thread, the current changes that have been

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [math] top-level package name

2009-05-23 Thread Phil Steitz
Henri Yandell wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: Luc Maisonobe a écrit : So let's vote on this proposal: change the top level package name on [math] from org.apache.commons.math to org.apache.commons.math2. [] +1 change the top level package name [] 0 I don

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [math] top-level package name

2009-05-23 Thread James Carman
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: > Of course, our way here is to come to agreement and it looks like we have > not done that in this case.  My original vote (+1) was partly for > consistency with the rest of commons and out of fear of "jar hell" > scenarios.  I was swayed by Ni

Re: [math] Apache Math TLP? [WAS Re: [math] top-level package name]

2009-05-23 Thread Edward J. Yoon
That's a very good idea IMO. On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > (apologies for jumping in half way through) > > luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Considering the ongoing discussion in another thread, the current changes >> that have been done on >> [math]

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [math] top-level package name

2009-05-23 Thread Luc Maisonobe
James Carman a écrit : > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Phil Steitz wrote: >> Of course, our way here is to come to agreement and it looks like we have >> not done that in this case. My original vote (+1) was partly for >> consistency with the rest of commons and out of fear of "jar hell" >> s

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] [math] top-level package name

2009-05-23 Thread Gilles Sadowski
> > Of course, our way here is to come to agreement and it looks like we have > > not done that in this case.  My original vote (+1) was partly for > > consistency with the rest of commons and out of fear of "jar hell" > > scenarios.  I was swayed by Niall's argument and reflection on use cases > >

Re: svn commit: r777065 [2/2] - in /commons/proper/pool/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/pool: ./ impl/

2009-05-23 Thread Phil Steitz
sebb wrote: On 21/05/2009, Rainer Jung wrote: On 21.05.2009 13:12, pste...@apache.org wrote: > Modified: commons/proper/pool/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/pool/impl/GenericObjectPool.java > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/proper/pool/trunk/src/java/org/apache/commons/pool/i

Re: commons-math, matrix-toolkits-java and consolidation

2009-05-23 Thread Ted Dunning
-1 to a TLP at the current time. I really agree that the current momentum may be a flash. On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Jin Mingjian wrote: > I like the idea about the "top level math project":) Is it possible or > interesting to host a sub-project for DSL to commons-math?(such as an > enhan

[pool] Release process

2009-05-23 Thread Phil Steitz
Perf testing has gone well so far. I have one more batch of javadoc / ridiculously-long-line elimination changes to commit and then I will cut an RC. There are a couple of things that I want to get community input on before plowing forward with the RC. 0) @author tags. This has been discus

Re: [pool] Release process

2009-05-23 Thread James Carman
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: > 1) Release process.  I am NOT planning on using the maven release plugin.  I > will get working assemblies to create tarballs, make tags, named RC1, 2 (NOT > "mutable" release tags) and push the tarballs and jar artifacts manually to > the mirr

Re: [sanselan] Next steps

2009-05-23 Thread Craig L Russell
Here's my take on graduating Sanselan from incubator to commons. 1. Sanselan has been accepted by Commons. 2. The active committers have been granted write access to the repository. Remaining issues: 1. Deciding on the package name for sanselan at commons. 2. Deciding on the brand name for s

Re: [sanselan] Next steps

2009-05-23 Thread Henri Yandell
Sounds good. On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: > Here's my take on graduating Sanselan from incubator to commons. > > 1. Sanselan has been accepted by Commons. > 2. The active committers have been granted write access to the repository. > > Remaining issues: > > 1. Deciding

Re: [math] Apache Math TLP? [WAS Re: [math] top-level package name]

2009-05-23 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > (apologies for jumping in half way through) > > luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Considering the ongoing discussion in another thread, the current changes >> that have been done on >> [math] for the last months belong to

Re: [ALL] fix site doc version so it agrees with release [was: [compress] Two issues with releasing the release]

2009-05-23 Thread Phil Steitz
Henri Yandell wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:14 AM, sebb wrote: On 22/05/2009, Rahul Akolkar wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:08 AM, sebb wrote: > On 22/05/2009, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> > Another minor glitch I noticed just now. All pages seem to include a >> > green "1.

Re: Moving doaps Was: [VOTE] Release commons-compress-1.0 based on RC2 (Rev: 774630)

2009-05-23 Thread Phil Steitz
Henri Yandell wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:01 AM, sebb wrote: On 22/05/2009, Henri Yandell wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:22 AM, sebb wrote: > [I think the DOAP files should not be in trunk at all] Agreed. We should move them up a directory. Or more - why not just h