Re: [Math] LeastSquaresOptimizer Design

2015-09-24 Thread luc
Le 2015-09-24 04:16, Ole Ersoy a écrit : On 09/23/2015 03:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: CM is not intended to be a design pattern people should mimic. We are so bad at this it would be a shame. No one in its right mind would copy or reuse this stuff. It is for internal use only and we don't

Re: [Math] LeastSquaresOptimizer Design

2015-09-24 Thread luc
Hi Gilles, Le 2015-09-23 23:00, Gilles a écrit : [...] CM is not intended to be a design pattern people should mimic. We are so bad at this The crux is that the project's team is in effect not _interested_ in this. [And I admit that I had not understood it for a long time (hence the

Re: [Math] LeastSquaresOptimizer Design

2015-09-24 Thread Ole Ersoy
On 09/24/2015 06:31 AM, luc wrote: Le 2015-09-24 04:16, Ole Ersoy a écrit : On 09/23/2015 03:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: CM is not intended to be a design pattern people should mimic. We are so bad at this it would be a shame. No one in its right mind would copy or reuse this stuff. It is

Contributor names in commit logs? (was: [jira] [Commented] (VFS-567) Timeout in vsFTPd causes exception when executing another command)

2015-09-24 Thread Bernd
Hello, do we have this rule to include the name of a patch contributor into the commit message? I havent seen that beeing used so far in commons-vfs, and the commit does contain Antonio's name in the changes.xml due-to= credits. I think a while back we had the discussion that not even this is

RE: Contributor names in commit logs? (was: [jira] [Commented] (VFS-567) Timeout in vsFTPd causes exception when executing another command)

2015-09-24 Thread Gary Gregory
There is such requirement for attribution that I know of. The changes.xml is what I see used most consistently and that's not a requirement either from what I can tell. With Git, there is a formal way to trace contributions, but I'm not sure if that's used at the ASF. Gary  Original

Re: Contributor names in commit logs? (was: [jira] [Commented] (VFS-567) Timeout in vsFTPd causes exception when executing another command)

2015-09-24 Thread Phil Steitz
On 9/24/15 8:59 AM, Bernd wrote: > Hello, > > do we have this rule to include the name of a patch contributor into > the commit message? I havent seen that beeing used so far in > commons-vfs, and the commit does contain Antonio's name in the > changes.xml due-to= credits. I think a while back we

Re: [Math] LeastSquaresOptimizer Design

2015-09-24 Thread Ole Ersoy
Hi Luc, I gave this some more thought, and I think I may have tapped out to soon, even though you are absolutely right about what an exception does in terms bubbling execution to a point where it stops or we handle it. Suppose we have an Optimizer and an Optimizer observer. The optimizer

Re: Contributor names in commit logs? (was: [jira] [Commented] (VFS-567) Timeout in vsFTPd causes exception when executing another command)

2015-09-24 Thread Phil Steitz
On 9/24/15 9:50 AM, Bernd wrote: > Phil, Is this somewhere codified? As I said at the end, I don't think this needs to be codified. The only actual requirement is CLA / software grant coverage for large contributions. We have agreed several times (should be in the list archives) not to

Re: [Math] LeastSquaresOptimizer Design

2015-09-24 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:43:38 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote: On 09/24/2015 06:31 AM, luc wrote: Le 2015-09-24 04:16, Ole Ersoy a écrit : On 09/23/2015 03:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: CM is not intended to be a design pattern people should mimic. We are so bad at this it would be a shame. No one in its

Re: [Math] LeastSquaresOptimizer Design

2015-09-24 Thread Ole Ersoy
On 09/24/2015 03:23 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: Le 24/09/2015 21:40, Ole Ersoy a écrit : Hi Luc, I gave this some more thought, and I think I may have tapped out to soon, even though you are absolutely right about what an exception does in terms bubbling execution to a point where it stops or

Re: [Math] LeastSquaresOptimizer Design

2015-09-24 Thread Ole Ersoy
On 09/24/2015 04:05 PM, Gilles wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:43:38 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote: On 09/24/2015 06:31 AM, luc wrote: Le 2015-09-24 04:16, Ole Ersoy a écrit : On 09/23/2015 03:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: CM is not intended to be a design pattern people should mimic. We are so bad

Re: [Math] LeastSquaresOptimizer Design

2015-09-24 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 17:02:15 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote: On 09/24/2015 03:23 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: Le 24/09/2015 21:40, Ole Ersoy a écrit : Hi Luc, I gave this some more thought, and I think I may have tapped out to soon, even though you are absolutely right about what an exception does in

Re: [Math] LeastSquaresOptimizer Design

2015-09-24 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 18:01:13 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote: On 09/24/2015 04:05 PM, Gilles wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:43:38 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote: On 09/24/2015 06:31 AM, luc wrote: Le 2015-09-24 04:16, Ole Ersoy a écrit : On 09/23/2015 03:09 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: CM is not intended to be a

Re: [Math] LeastSquaresOptimizer Design

2015-09-24 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 24/09/2015 21:40, Ole Ersoy a écrit : > Hi Luc, > > I gave this some more thought, and I think I may have tapped out to > soon, even though you are absolutely right about what an exception does > in terms bubbling execution to a point where it stops or we handle it. > > Suppose we have an

Re: [Math] LeastSquaresOptimizer Design

2015-09-24 Thread Ole Ersoy
Why should the instance throwing the exception hold a field with the information? Separation of concerns: optimizer does the computation, then the exception holds what's needed for a full report of the failure. I would see what makes sense on on case by case basis. For example if the

Re: Contributor names in commit logs? (was: [jira] [Commented] (VFS-567) Timeout in vsFTPd causes exception when executing another command)

2015-09-24 Thread Bernd
Phil, Is this somewhere codified? 2015-09-24 18:47 GMT+02:00 Phil Steitz : > On 9/24/15 8:59 AM, Bernd wrote: >> Hello, >> >> do we have this rule to include the name of a patch contributor into >> the commit message? I havent seen that beeing used so far in >> commons-vfs,

Re: [Math] LeastSquaresOptimizer Design

2015-09-24 Thread Ole Ersoy
On 09/24/2015 06:01 PM, Gilles wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 17:02:15 -0500, Ole Ersoy wrote: On 09/24/2015 03:23 PM, Luc Maisonobe wrote: Le 24/09/2015 21:40, Ole Ersoy a écrit : Hi Luc, I gave this some more thought, and I think I may have tapped out to soon, even though you are absolutely