Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-07-13 Thread sebb
On 13 July 2013 15:26, Gary Gregory wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 8:30 AM, sebb wrote: > >> >> >> I've done some more investigations. >> >> It seems it's not possible to use mvn deploy directly to a dist URL such as >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/plugins >> Probably becau

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-07-13 Thread Gary Gregory
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 8:30 AM, sebb wrote: > > > I've done some more investigations. > > It seems it's not possible to use mvn deploy directly to a dist URL such as > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/plugins > Probably because the server does not support WEBDAV or something. >

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-07-13 Thread sebb
I've done some more investigations. It seems it's not possible to use mvn deploy directly to a dist URL such as https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/commons/plugins Probably because the server does not support WEBDAV or something. However, there is a workround: - checkout the URL locally, s

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-23 Thread sebb
On 23 June 2013 21:02, Jörg Schaible wrote: > sebb wrote: > >> On 23 June 2013 20:35, Mark Thomas wrote: >>> On 23/06/2013 20:28, sebb wrote: On 23 June 2013 19:56, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > > Am 23.06.2013 um 20:16 schrieb sebb : > >> On 23 June 2013 16:10, Jörg Schaible wr

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-23 Thread Jörg Schaible
sebb wrote: > On 23 June 2013 20:35, Mark Thomas wrote: >> On 23/06/2013 20:28, sebb wrote: >>> On 23 June 2013 19:56, Benedikt Ritter wrote: Am 23.06.2013 um 20:16 schrieb sebb : > On 23 June 2013 16:10, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> sebb wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>>

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-23 Thread Jörg Schaible
sebb wrote: > On 23 June 2013 16:10, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> sebb wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> But we still need to resolve: >>> - where in SVN these tools belong >>> - how to ensure the tools are readily available to RMs >> >> Well, don't we have the possibility to publish these plugins somewhere

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-23 Thread sebb
On 23 June 2013 20:35, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 23/06/2013 20:28, sebb wrote: >> On 23 June 2013 19:56, Benedikt Ritter wrote: >>> >>> Am 23.06.2013 um 20:16 schrieb sebb : >>> On 23 June 2013 16:10, Jörg Schaible wrote: > sebb wrote: > > [snip] > >> But we still need to

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-23 Thread Mark Thomas
On 23/06/2013 20:28, sebb wrote: > On 23 June 2013 19:56, Benedikt Ritter wrote: >> >> Am 23.06.2013 um 20:16 schrieb sebb : >> >>> On 23 June 2013 16:10, Jörg Schaible wrote: sebb wrote: [snip] > But we still need to resolve: > - where in SVN these tools belong >> >>

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-23 Thread sebb
On 23 June 2013 19:56, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > > Am 23.06.2013 um 20:16 schrieb sebb : > >> On 23 June 2013 16:10, Jörg Schaible wrote: >>> sebb wrote: >>> >>> [snip] >>> But we still need to resolve: - where in SVN these tools belong > > Let's just create a new top level folder under

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-23 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Am 23.06.2013 um 20:16 schrieb sebb : > On 23 June 2013 16:10, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> sebb wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> But we still need to resolve: >>> - where in SVN these tools belong Let's just create a new top level folder under http://svn.apache.org/asf/commons. release-tools or someth

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-23 Thread sebb
On 23 June 2013 16:10, Jörg Schaible wrote: > sebb wrote: > > [snip] > >> But we still need to resolve: >> - where in SVN these tools belong >> - how to ensure the tools are readily available to RMs > > Well, don't we have the possibility to publish these plugins somewhere on > the web site? All t

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-23 Thread Jörg Schaible
sebb wrote: [snip] > But we still need to resolve: > - where in SVN these tools belong > - how to ensure the tools are readily available to RMs Well, don't we have the possibility to publish these plugins somewhere on the web site? All that Maven actually needs is a structure that looks like a

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-23 Thread Jörg Schaible
sebb wrote: > On 22 June 2013 12:50, Benedikt Ritter wrote: >> 2013/6/22 Jörg Schaible [snip] >>> Bad. At least to me. Especially since we always claim that we actually >>> release the source and not necessarily the binaries. So every user that >>> downloads our source can no longer simply bui

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-23 Thread sebb
On 22 June 2013 17:41, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 6/22/13 7:26 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: >> On 22/06/2013 14:45, Gary Gregory wrote: >> >> I don't have answers neither do I have the Maven knowledge I suspect is >> necessary to figure the answers out. I encourage those that do have the >> Maven skills

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-23 Thread sebb
On 22 June 2013 19:42, Oliver Heger wrote: > Am 22.06.2013 19:10, schrieb Gary Gregory: > >> On Jun 22, 2013, at 12:41, Phil Steitz wrote: >> >>> On 6/22/13 7:26 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: On 22/06/2013 14:45, Gary Gregory wrote: > > I'm for whatever does the RM process easier and l

Re: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox

2013-06-22 Thread sebb
On 22 June 2013 20:39, Simone Tripodi wrote: > There is an existing plugin[1] that supports checksums generation > applying a wider range of digest algorithm, it could help on inspiring > the ASF one. Thanks. The one I wrote is equivalent to that plugins goals file/files, except mine has slightl

Re: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox

2013-06-22 Thread Simone Tripodi
There is an existing plugin[1] that supports checksums generation applying a wider range of digest algorithm, it could help on inspiring the ASF one. my 0.02 EU ;) [1] http://nicoulaj.github.io/checksum-maven-plugin/examples/using-custom-checksum-algorithms.html http://people.apache.org/~simone

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-22 Thread Oliver Heger
Am 22.06.2013 19:10, schrieb Gary Gregory: On Jun 22, 2013, at 12:41, Phil Steitz wrote: On 6/22/13 7:26 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: On 22/06/2013 14:45, Gary Gregory wrote: I'm for whatever does the RM process easier and less error prone. If that means maven plugins, so be it. This is written a

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-22 Thread Gary Gregory
On Jun 22, 2013, at 12:41, Phil Steitz wrote: > On 6/22/13 7:26 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: >> On 22/06/2013 14:45, Gary Gregory wrote: >>> I'm for whatever does the RM process easier and less error prone. If >>> that means maven plugins, so be it. >> This is written as someone who has never released

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-22 Thread Phil Steitz
On 6/22/13 7:26 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 22/06/2013 14:45, Gary Gregory wrote: >> I'm for whatever does the RM process easier and less error prone. If >> that means maven plugins, so be it. > This is written as someone who has never released a commons component > and is very grateful for the fol

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-22 Thread Mark Thomas
On 22/06/2013 14:45, Gary Gregory wrote: > I'm for whatever does the RM process easier and less error prone. If > that means maven plugins, so be it. This is written as someone who has never released a commons component and is very grateful for the folks that have done the release work for the com

Re: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox

2013-06-22 Thread sebb
On 22 June 2013 15:15, Olivier Lamy wrote: > what about moving this to maven plugins ? > I'm pretty sure this could help some ASF projects. But only ASF projects; it assumes specific processes. > NOTE: the Maven sandbox path is open for all committers. Thanks, that would be a better route for t

Re: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox

2013-06-22 Thread Olivier Lamy
what about moving this to maven plugins ? I'm pretty sure this could help some ASF projects. NOTE: the Maven sandbox path is open for all committers. And btw probably won't be hard to promote it and add sebb in maven committers. My 0.02 AUD 2013/6/22 Phil Steitz : > -0 > > I don't think this sort

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-22 Thread Gary Gregory
I'm for whatever does the RM process easier and less error prone. If that means maven plugins, so be it. Gary On Jun 22, 2013, at 8:53, sebb wrote: > On 22 June 2013 12:50, Benedikt Ritter wrote: >> 2013/6/22 Jörg Schaible >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> sebb wrote: >>> On 22 June 2013 00:15, Phil St

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-22 Thread sebb
On 22 June 2013 12:50, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > 2013/6/22 Jörg Schaible > >> Hi, >> >> sebb wrote: >> >> > On 22 June 2013 00:15, Phil Steitz wrote: >> >> -0 >> >> >> >> I don't think this sort of things belongs in Commons proper as a >> >> component. What we advertise, release and support from

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-22 Thread Benedikt Ritter
2013/6/22 Jörg Schaible > Hi, > > sebb wrote: > > > On 22 June 2013 00:15, Phil Steitz wrote: > >> -0 > >> > >> I don't think this sort of things belongs in Commons proper as a > >> component. What we advertise, release and support from commons > >> proper are general purpose libraries that dev

Re: [ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-22 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi, sebb wrote: > On 22 June 2013 00:15, Phil Steitz wrote: >> -0 >> >> I don't think this sort of things belongs in Commons proper as a >> component. What we advertise, release and support from commons >> proper are general purpose libraries that developers can use in >> their own applications

[ALL] Strategy for developer tools (was: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox)

2013-06-22 Thread sebb
On 22 June 2013 00:15, Phil Steitz wrote: > -0 > > I don't think this sort of things belongs in Commons proper as a > component. What we advertise, release and support from commons > proper are general purpose libraries that developers can use in > their own applications. This is what Commons wa

Re: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox

2013-06-21 Thread Phil Steitz
-0 I don't think this sort of things belongs in Commons proper as a component. What we advertise, release and support from commons proper are general purpose libraries that developers can use in their own applications. This is what Commons was created for. While the staging plugin looks like a

Re: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox

2013-06-21 Thread sebb
On 21 June 2013 19:45, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hello Sebb, > > I very much appreciate your effort to ease the release process (although I've > never been RM). Thanks. > I'd like to see some tests in the plugin. The code should meet the same > quality requirements we put on other proper compon

Re: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox

2013-06-21 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Hello Sebb, I very much appreciate your effort to ease the release process (although I've never been RM). I'd like to see some tests in the plugin. The code should meet the same quality requirements we put on other proper components (although it is intended to be used only for releasing common

Re: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox

2013-06-21 Thread Gary Gregory
+1 Gary On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:06 AM, sebb wrote: > [I'm not sure a vote for this is really needed, but] > > I'd like to move the staging plugin from the sandbox to commons > proper, so it can be released for use by Commons. > > The component name is currently > > commons-staging-plugin >

Re: [VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox

2013-06-21 Thread luc
Le 2013-06-21 16:06, sebb a écrit : [I'm not sure a vote for this is really needed, but] I'd like to move the staging plugin from the sandbox to commons proper, so it can be released for use by Commons. +1 The component name is currently commons-staging-plugin I propose to keep the same n

[VOTE] Commons Staging Plugin - move to proper from sandbox

2013-06-21 Thread sebb
[I'm not sure a vote for this is really needed, but] I'd like to move the staging plugin from the sandbox to commons proper, so it can be released for use by Commons. The component name is currently commons-staging-plugin I propose to keep the same name unless there are objections. The vote wi