Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-29 Thread sebb
On 28 March 2013 18:13, Mladen Turk wrote: > On 03/28/2013 05:24 PM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Beside that, there are lots of weird concepts and my favorite is > voting for the content of web site. It's included in the RC vote so people can review it. We have never pulled an RC purely because the

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Mladen Turk
On 03/28/2013 05:24 PM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: But binary packages including the jars, the sources, the compiled tests, the dependencies and the javadoc are just redundant with the other Maven artifacts. Agreed. Those could/should be part of "standard" distribution method. Some times we just o

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 28/03/2013 16:20, Mladen Turk a écrit : > Well, I find it a bit discriminating to host only java code with Maven ;) > > With binaries (even native like with daemon) one can easily create a pom > that would pull everything without the need to setup gazillion of > main/archive/mirror sites, etc.

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Simone Tripodi
> >> There's only a slightly problem with that approach: the Maven central >> repo is not under the ASF control, while the old traditional dist area >> is, so I guess "official" releases _must_ be placed in the ASF space. > > I agree, our releases must go to an ASF space first. However one could >

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 28/03/2013 16:15, Simone Tripodi a écrit : > There's only a slightly problem with that approach: the Maven central > repo is not under the ASF control, while the old traditional dist area > is, so I guess "official" releases _must_ be placed in the ASF space. I agree, our releases must go to a

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Gary Gregory
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Mladen Turk wrote: > On 03/28/2013 03:33 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: > >> I don't think we can speak about "standard" practices, but Maven >> itself[1] publishes -src and -bin artifacts on the central repo. >> >> +1 on NOT publishing them on central repo, but we sh

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 28/03/2013 16:16, Phil Steitz a écrit : > The definitive location for ASF software distributions is the apache > mirrors. That is what we monitor, point to on the web pages, vouch > for, etc. Downstream packagers, distributors - *including Maven > central* - can do what they want and projects

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Mladen Turk
On 03/28/2013 03:33 PM, Simone Tripodi wrote: I don't think we can speak about "standard" practices, but Maven itself[1] publishes -src and -bin artifacts on the central repo. +1 on NOT publishing them on central repo, but we should find an automated way to deploy them on SvnPubSub along the sig

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Phil Steitz
On 3/28/13 7:39 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 28/03/2013 15:29, Stefan Bodewig a écrit : > >> Why? IMHO packagers should be using the "usual" distribution mirror >> system. > Sure that's what they do. But the "usual" location is different for > every library. If it can be standardized within the

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Simone Tripodi
Salut Manu, > > Sure that's what they do. But the "usual" location is different for > every library. If it can be standardized within the Maven infrastructure > that would greatly simplify the downstream packaging. Any library (from > Apache or elsewhere) could be downloaded in a buildable form di

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 28/03/2013 15:29, Stefan Bodewig a écrit : > Why? IMHO packagers should be using the "usual" distribution mirror > system. Sure that's what they do. But the "usual" location is different for every library. If it can be standardized within the Maven infrastructure that would greatly simplify t

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Simone Tripodi
I don't think we can speak about "standard" practices, but Maven itself[1] publishes -src and -bin artifacts on the central repo. +1 on NOT publishing them on central repo, but we should find an automated way to deploy them on SvnPubSub along the signature and checksums. best, -Simo [1] http://r

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2013-03-28, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Hi, > I just noticed that for the recent releases the source and binary > packages have been published in the Maven repository. I saw that with > fileupload 1.3 and daemon >= 1.0.11. > Is this a "standard" practice? I would hope it is not. When I released

Re: [all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Gary Gregory
This might have been unintentional. In the past, we've always made a point of NOT putting -src and -bin zips/tars in Maven Central. Has this policy changed with the new svnpubsub? Gary On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Hi, > > I just noticed that for the recent release

[all] Source and binary distributions in Maven

2013-03-28 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi, I just noticed that for the recent releases the source and binary packages have been published in the Maven repository. I saw that with fileupload 1.3 and daemon >= 1.0.11. Is this a "standard" practice? I find this very interesting because the sources.jar usually shipped is great for browsi