Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-09 Thread Benson Margulies
Yes, of course. I'm not qualified to do much for Math, but Ted and others at Mahout are. On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Siegfried Goeschl wrote: > Hi Benson, > > I would assume that contributing to commons-math requires some good math > background whereas primitives seem a little bit easier ...

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-09 Thread Siegfried Goeschl
Hi Benson, I would assume that contributing to commons-math requires some good math background whereas primitives seem a little bit easier ... :-) Cheers, Siegfried Goeschl Benson Margulies wrote: > So, the silence is rather noisy in response to the discussion about > commons-math. Commons PMC

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-09 Thread Benson Margulies
So, the silence is rather noisy in response to the discussion about commons-math. Commons PMC members, what's the story here? Why is it apparently easy for me to tee up code for primitives and impossible for the corresponding activity for -math? On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-07 Thread Ted Dunning
Bring them in! We will likely need them as well. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > maps. > > > On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > Which part did you care about? >> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Benson Margulies > >wrote: >> >> Aha, you didn't take

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-07 Thread Benson Margulies
maps. On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: Which part did you care about? On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Benson Margulies >wrote: Aha, you didn't take the part I care about most, but your grab of the jet stuff may help me grab the collections stuff. This is almost messy enoug

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-07 Thread Ted Dunning
Which part did you care about? On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Aha, you didn't take the part I care about most, but your grab of the > jet stuff may help me grab the collections stuff. This is almost messy > enough for me to go back to coding from scratch from Knuth. > >

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-07 Thread Benson Margulies
Aha, you didn't take the part I care about most, but your grab of the jet stuff may help me grab the collections stuff. This is almost messy enough for me to go back to coding from scratch from Knuth. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Jake Mannix wrote: > It's in the module now called "matrix" - th

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-07 Thread Jake Mannix
It's in the module now called "matrix" - the name "colt" is tradmarked by CERN, so we're not using that name as such. -jake On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I just checked this out and there is no colt in there. I got rev 888157. > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:04 PM,

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-07 Thread Benson Margulies
I just checked this out and there is no colt in there. I got rev 888157. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/mahout/trunk is the overall > directory.  Colt is just below that.  I believe that the pom in the subdir > will build colt without

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-07 Thread Ted Dunning
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/mahout/trunk is the overall directory. Colt is just below that. I believe that the pom in the subdir will build colt without the top-level, but you know more about maven than I do. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Ted, I just figur

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-07 Thread Benson Margulies
Ted, I just figured out why I should take you up on your offer. Where in svn is the Mahout fork? On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Mahout has already sucked Colt in.  If you are interested in modernizing it, > that might be a good place to do it. > > We are committed to maintai

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Benson Margulies
Oh, drat, NOW I see your addition to the JIRA. Sorry about that. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> Folks, >> >> The Colt library contains a pretty good core start to associative >> containers on basic types:

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Benson Margulies
Um, in my understanding, if there is source code sitting out there under a 'class A' license, it can be incorporated without being granted/cleared. I've posted a JIRA to legal-discuss about this license and I'm not checking anything in until I hear back. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Niall Pembe

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Folks, > > The Colt library contains a pretty good core start to associative > containers on basic types: http://acs.lbl.gov/~hoschek/colt. The > license looks like it might be an 'A'. I've posted a JIRA to legal to > check. The usual pro

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Benson Margulies
Did you already get a legal OK to incorporate things with that CERN notice? I'm very focused on the collections. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > As you like.  Forking from the mahout version might be handy for you since > it has already had all the GPL parts stripped out. >

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Ted Dunning
As you like. Forking from the mahout version might be handy for you since it has already had all the GPL parts stripped out. Building a trove replace in Mahout's Colt would be nice for us in Mahout since we need basically the same thing as well. As I mentioned, we want the Colt part to remain se

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm trying to make a ASL replacement for Trove, so, license permitting, I will be forking. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Mahout has already sucked Colt in.  If you are interested in modernizing it, > that might be a good place to do it. > > We are committed to maintaining i

Re: Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Ted Dunning
Mahout has already sucked Colt in. If you are interested in modernizing it, that might be a good place to do it. We are committed to maintaining its status as an independent library and are avoiding injecting any other dependencies. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > > Th

Colt vs. Primitives

2009-12-06 Thread Benson Margulies
Folks, The Colt library contains a pretty good core start to associative containers on basic types: http://acs.lbl.gov/~hoschek/colt. The license looks like it might be an 'A'. I've posted a JIRA to legal to check. --benson - To