Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > The legal status of a work is not determined by the markings on it. If > someone granted a license to the ASF, they granted a license. If a > third party jumps the gun and grabs a copy, and complies with the > situation, they're fine, incl

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-25 Thread Benson Margulies
The legal status of a work is not determined by the markings on it. If someone granted a license to the ASF, they granted a license. If a third party jumps the gun and grabs a copy, and complies with the situation, they're fine, including ripping out the obsolete markings for themselves. On Tue, A

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On the other hand, somebody taking said snapshot and releasing it under the name Project BOO, licensed under the ALv2. Is something that both the ALv2 license AND our trademark policy are totally fine with. What if (not a fictional example; a real case) the code is taken

RE: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-25 Thread Ross Gardler
In my opinion, yes. I reserve the right to change my mind based on further input from others ;-) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Roman Shaposhnik Sent: ‎8/‎25/‎2015 12:32 PM To: gene...@incubator.apache.org

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > [Failing at dealing with this cross-posted and variously-branched discussion > on two lists, > so I am doing it too. Also OT with respect to Ross's declaration, but it has > to do with the > fact that "release" is not so well disting

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Fascinating discussion, who started this thread? ;-) On a more serious note (actually, very serious one): On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Our policy is that the combined works are RELEASED under ALv2. That combined > work > is only licensed as such when the foundation fo