Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-25 Thread Griselda Cuevas
I liked the three sentences Joan outlined, and overall the idea of spelling out the things we value. Thank you! On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 06:39, Joan Touzet wrote: > I'm travelling and on holiday this week, but my $0.02: > > Stop trying to find a single word for what we mean. It's too subtle:

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-25 Thread Sam Ruby
I fear that we have lost the original point made my Naomi. In other circles, I have found people openly mocking the ASF as a "mirror-tocracy" where we recognize merit only in people that look like us. Whether we agree with that or not, we have to accept that that is a perception held by a

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-25 Thread Henk P. Penning
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, Shane Curcuru wrote: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 12:00:20 + From: Shane Curcuru To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: on "meritocracy" Henk P. Penning wrote on 3/24/19 1:29 PM: ...snip...   When using the word 'Meritocracy', is is important to   explain on which

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-25 Thread Joan Touzet
I'm travelling and on holiday this week, but my $0.02: Stop trying to find a single word for what we mean. It's too subtle: > >   When using the word 'Meritocracy', is is important to > >   explain on which merits the meritocracy is based : > >   -- community building > >   -- software

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-25 Thread Shane Curcuru
Henk P. Penning wrote on 3/24/19 1:29 PM: ...snip... >   When using the word 'Meritocracy', is is important to >   explain on which merits the meritocracy is based : >   -- community building >   -- software construction >   -- whatever This is the main issue, and one where the traditional ASF

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Rich, On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 4:39 PM Rich Bowen wrote: > ...I realized this morning that one of those changes may have stepped on > Bertrand's toes, since he was the primary driver behind the Maturity > Model prose, which is used in more than just this one place... You mean by changing to

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-25 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
Am 24. März 2019 01:44:49 MEZ schrieb Ross Gardler : > See a merit deserving action - call it out with a thank >you. I like this point, though what I observe is that this is often forgotten. > If you have the patience I'll illustrate this with a story, Thank you for sharing that story, to