Re: IMPORTANT: Re: Forwarded: GitHub vs. FreeYourGadget Full Story

2017-07-13 Thread Joe Schaefer
DMCA is hardly a panacea.  While it does absolve us of copyright infringement claims against services used in the production of releases, it does not help in the slightest when it comes to releases themselves.That would make the whole point of voting on them moot. It's not urgent, not a new idea

Re: Vetoes for New Committers??

2017-04-04 Thread Joe Schaefer
Running to the board every time there is a lack of consensus about a candidate is not appropriate governance at Apache.  The fact that PMC members are afforded certain RIGHTS, including the right to stop the train on a personnel promotion, is an important aspect of maintaining proper checks and

Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

2016-05-29 Thread Joe Schaefer
vate@ instead? Niclas On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Joe Schaefer > wrote: > > Roman, > > I've been beating the archiving problem with president@ like a dead > horse for the past week- what > > on earth

Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

2016-05-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
ut letting people who want to fix this have a go at it without further obstruction and obfuscation, Roman? On Friday, May 27, 2016 10:35 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Here is what Shane said:"Emails to president@ (as far as I can tell) go to an alias which forwards to Ross (and EVP, and p

Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

2016-05-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
on skills. On Friday, May 27, 2016 10:31 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Here was your reply to me when I first pointed out the deficiencies with president@.  So much for the difficult to understand flowery prose, you keep changing your stripes with each passing hour: On Thu, May 19, 2016

Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

2016-05-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
en lacking on this thread. Shall we fork it into a separate thread to get a closure? Show original message On Friday, May 27, 2016 10:26 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Here's what I wrote to you on members@ Roman: > > &

Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

2016-05-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
lligent conversation with you Roman when only one of us is paying attention to what the other has said. On Thursday, May 26, 2016 8:25 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Roman, > I've been beating the archiving problem with

Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

2016-05-26 Thread Joe Schaefer
Roman, I've been beating the archiving problem with president@ like a dead horse for the past week- what on earth have you been reading to avoid that reality? Furthermore, I doubt president@ has an associated qmail owner file, which means any addresses listed in that alias that go to domains whos

Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

2016-05-25 Thread Joe Schaefer
Actually it's more about senders with strict SPF rules that the qmail owner files will correct for.  It would be particularly bad for such email to get lost in transit. On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:16 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Patch looks pretty straightforward Marvin.  Howev

Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

2016-05-25 Thread Joe Schaefer
fully delivered. On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:00 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 1:30 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Joe Schaefer > wrote: >> ...We have options for phasing out president@, from simply using on

Re: ombudsman@ (was Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?)

2016-05-23 Thread Joe Schaefer
Personally I'd like to see the CoC addressed as well, particularly in regards to the use of president@ as a potential reporting channel for abuse. The CoC has been in place for a while now, and we have a rough guide from Ross to indicate that president@ as a reporting channel is underused compare

Re: Apache Software Foundation Projects and DevOps

2015-11-10 Thread Joe Schaefer
More specifically, it is the exception rather than the rule that theASF infrastructure actually directly deploys the latest software writtenby Apache projects, so no there's really no devops being practicedin that way. The infra team itself, as has been mentioned by others, has adopteddevops pri

Re: [VOTE] Replace projects.apache.org with projects-new.apache.org

2015-03-06 Thread Joe Schaefer
LGTM, but don't forget to update the www.apache.org homepageto base it on the new stuff instead of the DOAP files. On Friday, March 6, 2015 10:47 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" wrote: +1 please do so :) ++ Chris Mattma

Y! DMARC munging activated here

2014-06-01 Thread Joe Schaefer
I've enabled DMARC munging here to allow myself and Melissa to post deliverable messages.  Contact infrastructure@ if you feel strongly that this change was unwarranted. You can see the only visible impact of the change right in this very message- my From: address has an INVALID suffix.  This howe

Re: Project Culture and Commit Rights

2013-01-11 Thread Joe Schaefer
The problem with that is that we don't get any of the benefits out of simplification of our rulesets: namely more comprehensible behavior out of the server when a commit has been blocked and someone needs help, and it doesn't imply that the org has made any cultural shifts towards a more open infra

New CMS features for contributors

2012-06-24 Thread Joe Schaefer
It's never been easier to get started with the CMS as an anonymous contributor than it is right now:     http://s.apache.org/cms-anonymous-clone Please pass this info along to other CMS based projects to encourage contributors to install and use the CMS bookmarklet and contribute directly to CMS

Re: Shared Calendars

2011-05-20 Thread Joe Schaefer
Python or Perl scripts are preferred from an infrastructure standpoint, as we already have the skillset capable of managing those types of works. - Original Message > From: Ross Gardler > To: dev@community.apache.org > Sent: Fri, May 20, 2011 1:30:08 PM > Subject: Re: Shared Calendars

Re: Commit karma

2011-03-03 Thread Joe Schaefer
] @committers = rw @svnadmins = rw - Original Message > From: Ross Gardler > To: dev@community.apache.org > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:29:52 AM > Subject: Re: Commit karma > > On 03/03/2011 14:24, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > Why not manage the site the way the

Re: Commit karma

2011-03-03 Thread Joe Schaefer
Why not manage the site the way the www site is managed and open up commit access to all committers? You can restrict actual publication to comdev folks. - Original Message > From: Ross Gardler > To: dev@community.apache.org > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:18:05 AM > Subject: Re: Commit

Re: [proposal] integrating womAn@a.o into an Apache code of practice

2010-09-16 Thread Joe Schaefer
at any > suggestion of generic influence rejects to the point of offense, but the > same writers assert that environmental effects are cast into immutable > stone. > > Maybe women are just smarter and have figured out that they can get more > money for less work in

Re: [proposal] integrating womAn@a.o into an Apache code of practice

2010-09-16 Thread Joe Schaefer
p 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > ...I think > > we should remain open to future initiatives, even those that > > present potential "corrective" biases which favor underrepresented > > groups > > I agree with that. > &

Re: [proposal] integrating womAn@a.o into an Apache code of practice

2010-09-16 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Bertrand Delacretaz > To: dev@community.apache.org > Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:54:50 AM > Subject: Re: [proposal] integrating wo...@a.o into an Apache code of practice > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Sean Owen wrote: > > ...I like the idea that A

Re: Presentations

2010-08-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
Ping jerenkrantz as he has given several such presos. - Original Message > From: Tim Williams > To: dev@community.apache.org > Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 5:43:47 PM > Subject: Re: Presentations > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > > On 02/08/2010 16:00, Isabel D

Re: Contributing positively to a meritocracy (was Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] roll women@a.o into dev@community.a.o)

2010-08-01 Thread Joe Schaefer
Gardler > To: dev@community.apache.org > Sent: Sun, August 1, 2010 11:20:18 AM > Subject: Re: Contributing positively to a meritocracy (was Re: [DISCUSS] >[VOTE] roll wo...@a.o into d...@community.a.o) > > Thanks Joe. > > Ross > > On 01/08/2010 13:19, Joe Schaefer wrote: > &

Re: Contributing positively to a meritocracy (was Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] roll women@a.o into dev@community.a.o)

2010-08-01 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Anjana G Bhattacharjee > To: Ted Dunning > Cc: dev@community.apache.org > Sent: Sun, August 1, 2010 6:40:27 AM > Subject: Re: Contributing positively to a meritocracy (was Re: [DISCUSS] >[VOTE] roll wo...@a.o into d...@community.a.o) > > Hi Ted, > > Thanks

Re: [proposal] integrating womAn@a.o into an Apache code of practice

2010-07-30 Thread Joe Schaefer
Lol. Identity management, gender, and mailing list sociology are all interesting components of the proposal, but they don't mesh at all with how we normally think about these things. Anjana, if you want to keep exploring the boundaries of what is possible with respect to those ideas and how they

Re: Request to create autoresponder for PRC mailing list

2010-03-23 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Serge Knystautas > Cc: ASF Infrastructure ; fundrais...@apache.org; > ASF Trademarks & Brand Management ; ASF DevCom > ; ASF Marketing & Publicity > Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 6:54:19 PM > Subject: Re: Request to create autoresponder for PRC mailing list >

Re: Request to create autoresponder for PRC mailing list

2010-03-23 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Sally Khudairi > To: Tony Stevenson > Cc: ASF Infrastructure ; fundrais...@apache.org; > ASF Trademarks & Brand Management ; ASF DevCom > ; ASF Marketing & Publicity > Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 6:23:06 PM > Subject: Re: Request to create autoresponder for P