ghamarjannah...@gmail.com On May 23, 2016 5:47 PM, "Joe Schaefer" <joe_schae...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> Personally I'd like to see the CoC addressed as well, particularly in > regards to the use of president@ as a potential reporting channel for > abuse. > The CoC has been in place for a while now, and we have a rough guide from > Ross to indicate that president@ as a reporting channel is underused > compared with other avenues which are being used. My personal problem with > the president@ channel is that it is archived and so member-readable, > which contradicts the actual claims made about the channel on the CoC. > We have options for phasing out president@, from simply using one of > Ross's personal addresses, to creating a dedicated alias of the > ombuds(man)@ variety. I prefer the latter, not to intermediate Ross who > otherwise does an excellent job of handling issues,but to ensure a small > team of volunteers is in the pipeline to provide some stability beyond > Ross' tenure as president. IOW there's no reason Ross couldn't be one of > the ombuds(man)@ volunteers, should he wish to. > Ideally the communication channel is described as fully confidential > between the parties alone- no archiving or any other means of > unintentionally increasing exposure of the issue beyond what the reporter > is comfortable with. Also it'd be good to provide profiles of each > volunteer on a dedicated page, along with personal contact information as > an alternate way of communicating an issue. > Thoughts? > > > On Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:49 PM, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > On 05/22/2016 11:35 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > > Here's a really good suggestion from one of our other lists... > > > > "I wish we could hear from all the women who haven't come to Apache" > > (pardon the waffling below...) > > I am left wondering....could we perhaps extend this a bit? > > We know there's definitely an issue of women being proportionately > underrepresented in most FLOSS communities - what about other groups > that may be in the same boat, but doesn't have the same visibility here? > > Would it make sense to broaden our search a bit and see if we can figure > out if there are other areas that are just as bad (or maybe even worse > off)? > > There is plenty of data surrounding how the world is made up of > different groups of people, whether it be gender, color, orientations, > faith, mental state etc, but none that I could immediately find on FLOSS > communities - and I can't help wondering if there are other groups just > as underrepresented out there (I could think of a few that might be, but > I have no data whatsoever to support my claims!). > > I'm not saying we should start 100 different outreach programs or try to > be the perfect fit for everyone from day one...but it sure would be > interesting to see which groups we actually feel welcoming to, and which > we miss by a mile. > > Does any such data on FLOSS communities in general already exist? > > I know this may irk some people slightly, trying to open up that big bag > of profiles, but we won't really know if we are inadvertently hostile or > unwelcoming to certain parts of the world's population until we start > asking some questions. > > Maybe some sort of survey on the matter? I would naturally prefer a > completely anonymous survey if we chose that route. > > With regards, > Daniel. > > > > > I'm not crediting because it came from an internal list, but I am > repeating it as I agree with this excellent suggestion. If there are people > in this group here please feel free to reach out onlist or, if you feel you > want to say things better said privately, try Sharan who started the thread > (or anyone else you feel comfortable mailing with your thoughts). > > > > Ross > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Ross Gardler > >> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:39 AM > >> To: dev@community.apache.org > >> Subject: RE: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects? > >> > >> We do not have current strategies. We've tried many things in the past > but > >> they've never really succeeded. I'll not speculate on why, it's a > complex issue. > >> > >> What I will say (with my Presidents hat firmly on), is that if folks > come up > >> with a strategy that is in line with our charitable mission then please > don't > >> hesitate to ask for any support you need. > >> > >> Ross > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Sharan Foga [mailto:sharan.f...@gmail.com] > >>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:18 AM > >>> To: dev@community.apache.org > >>> Subject: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects? > >>> > >>> Hi All > >>> > >>> I'm interested in finding out how we could encourage more women to > >>> participate on Apache projects. It's a discussion topic that came up > >>> last week while I was at Apachecon. My understanding is that we don't > >>> have any current strategies in place so I think it could be good to > >>> look at gathering some ideas about how to tackle the problem and also > >>> hear about any lessons learned from any previous or similar strategies. > >>> > >>> What do people think? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> Sharan > >>> > > > > > >
