Re: Overlapping role descriptions

2015-09-26 Thread Branko Čibej
On 26.09.2015 16:16, Pierre Smits wrote: > Branko, > > I am not talking about walls, only about removing confusion from > definitions. The question that I keep repeating that you haven't answered is: whose confusion? Can you show that people are actually confused by our current definitions? Are *

Re: Overlapping role descriptions

2015-09-26 Thread Pierre Smits
Branko, I am not talking about walls, only about removing confusion from definitions. A contributor can be user, as much as he/she can choose not to be a user. Similarly, a developer of project A contributing (in whatever form) to project B can be someone who doesn't use (benefits from) the works

Re: Overlapping role descriptions

2015-09-26 Thread Branko Čibej
On 26.09.2015 14:45, Pierre Smits wrote: > It is all about removing potential confusion and sending clear messages. > > *re: user* > A user benefits from the contributions. He/she or them (the organisation) > can happily do so without ever interacting with a projects community. They > may even be a

Re: Overlapping role descriptions

2015-09-26 Thread Pierre Smits
It is all about removing potential confusion and sending clear messages. *re: user* A user benefits from the contributions. He/she or them (the organisation) can happily do so without ever interacting with a projects community. They may even be a subscriber to any or all mailing lists of the ASF w

Re: Overlapping role descriptions

2015-09-25 Thread Lefty Leverenz
Pierre, although your new descriptions make sense I still prefer the originals. Projects have separate mailing lists for developers and users, so people need to understand the difference. And users can contribute too. Perhaps a third description for "contributor" could clarify the overlap. -- L

Re: Overlapping role descriptions

2015-09-25 Thread Branko Čibej
On 25.09.2015 08:57, Pierre Smits wrote: > Hi All, > > At http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles we have > descriptions for the user and the developer roles. But the descriptions are > overlapping. So what exactly is wrong with the fact that the roles overlap? -- Brane > For *

Overlapping role descriptions

2015-09-24 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi All, At http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles we have descriptions for the user and the developer roles. But the descriptions are overlapping. For *user* we have: A *user* is someone that uses our software. They contribute to the Apache projects by providing feedback to dev