Re: [1.4] Shipping Fauxton

2013-07-21 Thread Noah Slater
Let's not delay the release for Fauxton. I know it's tempting, but we should try to stick to our guns vis-à-vis timed releases. We'll be doing another one in August, and then September. So there's nothing to worry about. :) On 19 July 2013 09:21, Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote: On

Re: [1.4] Shipping Fauxton

2013-07-19 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Russell Branca chewbra...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. Alright, new Fauxton ship target is 1.5. So that would likely be the August release, then? And, to consider all the options: how much more delay *would* be enough to ship 1.4? A few days? A week? Cheers,

[1.4] Shipping Fauxton

2013-07-18 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
Fauxton Folks (and other interested parties), Yesterday at the meeting there was some consensus that we're shipping Fauxton in 1.4, alongside Futon. I was talking about this with Russell and Garrett on IRC before that (and they were in the meeting), but I just want to make sure we have our ducks

Re: [1.4] Shipping Fauxton

2013-07-18 Thread Garren Smith
Hey Dirkjan, I think Tuesday might be a little tight. We don't have the new UI in place yet. We could ship a very very early beta with the old design with most the functionality of futon except for replication. Russell, Sue what do you two think? On 18 Jul 2013, at 2:00 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman

Re: [1.4] Shipping Fauxton

2013-07-18 Thread Russell Branca
Tuesday is quite tight, I thought we had a while longer before 1.4. My preference is postpone to the next release and bring it in when we have the new UI in place, which should be sometime in August. -Russell On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Garren Smith gar...@apache.org wrote: Hey Dirkjan,

Re: [1.4] Shipping Fauxton

2013-07-18 Thread Alexander Shorin
Imho, better no rush with end-user tools. If Fauxton aims to replace Futon, it should really impress and be featured since the first shot. Otherwise users may not meet it positive so that whole the idea will be ruined no matter how awesome it had planned to be. -- ,,,^..^,,, On Thu, Jul 18, 2013

Re: [1.4] Shipping Fauxton

2013-07-18 Thread Simon Metson
+1 - good point Alexander On Thursday, 18 July 2013 at 15:34, Alexander Shorin wrote: Imho, better no rush with end-user tools. If Fauxton aims to replace Futon, it should really impress and be featured since the first shot. Otherwise users may not meet it positive so that whole the idea

Re: [1.4] Shipping Fauxton

2013-07-18 Thread Jan Lehnardt
On Jul 18, 2013, at 21:34 , Alexander Shorin kxe...@gmail.com wrote: Imho, better no rush with end-user tools. If Fauxton aims to replace Futon, it should really impress and be featured since the first shot. Otherwise users may not meet it positive so that whole the idea will be ruined no

Re: [1.4] Shipping Fauxton

2013-07-18 Thread Russell Branca
Agreed. Alright, new Fauxton ship target is 1.5. -Russell On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jan Lehnardt j...@apache.org wrote: On Jul 18, 2013, at 21:34 , Alexander Shorin kxe...@gmail.com wrote: Imho, better no rush with end-user tools. If Fauxton aims to replace Futon, it should