Re: Apache Flex Download Stats

2013-03-05 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
Actually, http://flex.apache.org/download-binaries.html 10781 is wrong, it is 10781 users have downloaded directly from the web site, included 1977 users have downloaded the sources, the others the binaries. 5919 from the installer. And all that for the 4.9.0 only. -Fred -Message d'origin

Re: [FalconJx] major commit ready to go...

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
I didn't tell you anything. I asked if we could discuss changes BEFORE your even wrote anything to commit. Mike Quoting Erik de Bruin : LOL, you told me to discuss first, commit later... which is what I'm doing. I'm writing a big reply to your comments, just had to get this out of the way ;

Re: [FalconJx] major commit ready to go...

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
We did. :) I just wanted to see if you were reading every word I write. :) Mike Quoting Erik de Bruin : It's re-renamed (de-named?). About 'common', I tried to explain that might be a misnomer due to me not being a native English speaker. As stated before, I complete stand behind what you

Re: Spark List instantiates an extra orphaned ItemRenderer (ostensibly for measuring)

2013-03-05 Thread Christian M. Cepel
I'll take a look at that and the feedback from Alex. Thank you gentlemen. With all the other things I'm juggling, I thought I was lucky just to discover the extra instantiation. Hopefully some other things will fall into line and I'll get a chance to go a little deeper using these suggestions.

Re: [FalconJx] major commit ready to go...

2013-03-05 Thread Erik de Bruin
Mike, I'm confused. I'm sure it's me (being a foreigner and all), but I don't understand what you're asking of me... I did a big commit 'solo', it nearly was vetoed. The suggestion was I talk about what I plan to change before actually committing next time I needed to make changes that might influ

Re: [FalconJx] major commit ready to go...

2013-03-05 Thread Erik de Bruin
Also, did you, or did you not want me to commit my latest contribution, based on the description I gave? EdB On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Erik de Bruin wrote: > Mike, I'm confused. I'm sure it's me (being a foreigner and all), but > I don't understand what you're asking of me... > > I did a

Re: [FalconJx] major commit ready to go...

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Erik, Here is the misunderstanding in a nut shell. The commit I got so upset about was mainly knee jerk but is served as a warning to me. The ONLY time I have a problem with any type of "commit then review" process is when the changes or refactoring have to do with the frameworks (existing

Re: [FalconJx] major commit ready to go...

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
DO IT! :) We will discuss architecture down the road when the dust settles, I just wanted to make sure the child(MXML) is not telling the parent(AS) what to do. :) Mike Quoting Erik de Bruin : Also, did you, or did you not want me to commit my latest contribution, based on the descriptio

Re: [FalconJx] major commit ready to go...

2013-03-05 Thread Erik de Bruin
I will do it in a moment, but first I must ask: why do you say that MXML is the 'child' of AS? It is no such thing, it exists (mostly) separate from AS, all they share are some common ancestors (my now infamous 'common' stuff). Let's call them brothers ;-) This latest commit I have lined up allows

Re: [FalconJx] major commit ready to go...

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Ha, Ok another language thing, I did not mean child in respect to inheritance, I meant child in respect to who knows about who, which sibling "might" work but its not exact since MXML can 'have' AS composed in it BUT AS cannot have MXML composed in it. This is where the parent child thing

Re: [FalconJx] major commit ready to go...

2013-03-05 Thread Erik de Bruin
Now we're on the same page :-) Happy coding! EdB On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Ha, > > Ok another language thing, I did not mean child in respect to inheritance, I > meant child in respect to who knows about who, which sibling "might" work > but its not exact sinc

Re: Apache Flex Download Stats

2013-03-05 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Nope. Just 4.9.0 specifically. -Nick On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Om wrote: > Wow, that is awesome! > > Does the number include 4.9.1 as well? > > Thanks, > Om > On Mar 4, 2013 8:41 PM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" wrote: > > > From Dec 27th, 2012 through yesterday (March 3rd) : Apache Flex 4.9

Re: [DRAFT] March Board Report

2013-03-05 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
Justin, It's hard to say how many people are downloading directly off our mirrors (and not hitting our website download links at all). I would assume it is a small percentage. I'm able to see who is downloading the SDK via the Installer because the installer is looking for the .md5 directly from

RE: Apache Flex Download Stats

2013-03-05 Thread Sugan Naicker
Hi Nick, If you want I can assist in putting together a report with graphs etc on the download statistics of each release version (4.9.1), etc. (do some number crunching). If you can point me in the right direction, I will assist? Rgs, Sugan Naicker South Africa -Original Message- From:

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33418) Error #2044: Unhandled error:. text=PDFError

2013-03-05 Thread Patrick Barry (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33418?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13593497#comment-13593497 ] Patrick Barry commented on FLEX-33418: -- I used this shell script to update my AIR SDK

Re: Spark Tree

2013-03-05 Thread Alex Harui
I think you have to pick some goals. What is the main purpose of a Spark Tree? Is it just to allow for Spark skinning of the control? Does it have to run on mobile (Spark DataGrid is not recommended for mobile either and the Adobe version of Spark Tree was going to be based on Spark DataGrid).

[Site] Mailing list links

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
I don't know if I am hallucinating or not but in the "Mailing list" section under all headings the mark mail and Apache links to the archives are pointing to the incubator urls. Do others see this? Mike -- Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC http://www.teotigraphix.com http://blog.teoti

Re: [Site] Mailing list links

2013-03-05 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
They never changed our mailing list archival location... It looks weird, but that is the official spot currently. -Nick On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > > I don't know if I am hallucinating or not but in the "Mailing list" > section under all headings the mark mail and

Re: [Site] Mailing list links

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
But when you actually go to the archives at that url(say Apache archives), they show nothing for February. It's like the archives are being put somewhere else. Mike Quoting Nicholas Kwiatkowski : They never changed our mailing list archival location... It looks weird, but that is the offi

Re: [Site] Mailing list links

2013-03-05 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
see http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/flex-dev/ -Message d'origine- From: Michael Schmalle Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 6:54 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: [Site] Mailing list links But when you actually go to the archives at that url(say Apache archives), they show no

[FalconJx] Future work cleaning up

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Erik, In a couple days I am planning on doing a bunch of stuff in the main visitor framework I have had on my list for a while. Since you are into MXML, I thought I would just let you know. For example, I want to clean up the main switch. I'm going to add a couple missing interfaces to t

Re: [Site] Mailing list links

2013-03-05 Thread Alex Harui
MarkMail did not change, but Apache archives did. Everything from mid-january on is at a different URL. See the thread on that yesterday. On 3/5/13 9:52 AM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" wrote: > They never changed our mailing list archival location... It looks weird, > but that is the official spo

Re: [Site] Mailing list links

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Thats nice, but is this url on the site? From what I see there is no way for people to view this current data from the site, am I missing something? Mike Quoting Frédéric THOMAS : see http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/flex-dev/ -Message d'origine- From: Michael Schmalle S

Re: [FalconJx] Future work cleaning up

2013-03-05 Thread Erik de Bruin
Me, made an error... impossible! I need to attend to some other projects in the next couple of days, so I look forward to your commit. You have the ball :-) EdB On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > > Erik, > > In a couple days I am planning on doing a bunch of stuff in th

Re: [FalconJx] Future work cleaning up

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
No you didn't cause an error, in my "bat cave" project there was only one compiler error and I just needed to add a cast to IASBlockWalker from IBlockWalker. Mike Quoting Erik de Bruin : Me, made an error... impossible! I need to attend to some other projects in the next couple of days, s

Re: [FalconJx] Future work cleaning up

2013-03-05 Thread Erik de Bruin
That's me, the kung fu and "blind chess" master of other people's code. Or - with one error - maybe only a lowly grasshopper Fischer ;-) Have fun! EdB On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > No you didn't cause an error, in my "bat cave" project there was only one > compiler

Re: [FalconJx] Future work cleaning up

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
So I take it we are at the same level on revision correct? You don't have any outstanding commits? Mike Quoting Erik de Bruin : That's me, the kung fu and "blind chess" master of other people's code. Or - with one error - maybe only a lowly grasshopper Fischer ;-) Have fun! EdB On Tue, M

Re: [FalconJx] Future work cleaning up

2013-03-05 Thread Erik de Bruin
We are, my local code === SVN code. Perhaps this would be a good time (if you have time) to do some of that refactoring you had in mind? EdB On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > So I take it we are at the same level on revision correct? You don't have > any outstanding com

Falcon and MXML

2013-03-05 Thread Gordon Smith
Yo, I'm back from vacation. I recently switched teams at Adobe and am no longer working on the compiler. However, I intend to continue improving Falcon's support for MXML on my own time as part of Apache Flex. My goal is still to get to the point where we can switch from the old compiler to Falc

Re: [FalconJx] Future work cleaning up

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Yeah, I think I will. It will be done within the next day or so, that will be a wicked one. Mike Quoting Erik de Bruin : We are, my local code === SVN code. Perhaps this would be a good time (if you have time) to do some of that refactoring you had in mind? EdB On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7

Re: Falcon and MXML

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Hope you had a nice reprieve. So this means Fridays are out now and its "when you can"? BTW Thanks you for such a wonderful framework, big things are being built of this new compiler that have nothing to do with he Flash Player, I thank you for that opportunity. Mike Quoting Gordon Smith

Re: Falcon and MXML

2013-03-05 Thread Erik de Bruin
Gordon, That is both sad and excellent news. I'm glad you intend to keep working on MXML and I'll try to keep up in FalconJx... well, keep up... try to get up to speed. Thanks! EdB On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Yo, I'm back from vacation. I recently switched teams at

RE: Falcon and MXML

2013-03-05 Thread Gordon Smith
Myanmar was fascinating and very photogenic. I'll probably devote one or two evenings per week to Falcon MXML work. And I'll continue reading the mailing list on a daily basis. - Gordon -Original Message- From: Michael Schmalle [mailto:apa...@teotigraphix.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 05,

Re: [FalconJx] Future work cleaning up

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Erik, I just ran the unit tests for falcon.jx.tests and I get 4 errors with null pointers in TestFlexJSMXMLApplication. Do they fail for you, do I have to rebuild to projects? Did you change something with how things are setup? Mike Quoting Erik de Bruin : We are, my local code === SV

[jira] [Created] (FLEX-33419) RuntimeLocale.as for Apache Flex Installer needs to be updated for the German language

2013-03-05 Thread Frank (JIRA)
Frank created FLEX-33419: Summary: RuntimeLocale.as for Apache Flex Installer needs to be updated for the German language Key: FLEX-33419 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33419 Project: Apache

[jira] [Updated] (FLEX-33419) RuntimeLocale.as for Apache Flex Installer needs to be updated for the German language

2013-03-05 Thread Frank (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33419?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Frank updated FLEX-33419: - Attachment: germanLocale.patch german locale translation > RuntimeLocale.as for Apache Flex Inst

[jira] [Updated] (FLEX-33419) RuntimeLocale.as for Apache Flex Installer needs to be updated for the German language

2013-03-05 Thread Frank (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33419?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Frank updated FLEX-33419: - Attachment: trackerNoticeMaxWithFix.patch set maxSize on trackerNoticeLabel to force word wrap >

[FalconJx] Power package refactor

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Well, I think probably almost every file in the framework/tests just got updated... Make sure to update. Mike -- Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC http://www.teotigraphix.com http://blog.teotigraphix.com

Re: [FalconJx] Future work cleaning up

2013-03-05 Thread Erik de Bruin
Mike, I wouldn't have committed unless all tests pass on my end. I updated to include your refactor and all test still pass on my side. Do you keep Falcon up to date? EdB On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Erik, > > I just ran the unit tests for falcon.jx.tests and I g

Re: [FalconJx] Future work cleaning up

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Schmalle
Yeah, I update the whole trunk when I do an update. It's probably just something small on my end, I will do a super clean and rebuild in a while. I am sure that will clear up whatever the problem is. Quoting Erik de Bruin : Mike, I wouldn't have committed unless all tests pass on my end.

Re: Spark Tree

2013-03-05 Thread Harbs
My concern was really because selecting "Spark only" in Flash Builder makes those classes unavailable. I'm not sure how much of an issue that really is. Does that compiler option really make any difference in app size if you don't use mx components? I've been spending a LOT of time (like tens o

Re: Spark Tree

2013-03-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/5/13 12:54 PM, "Harbs" wrote: > My concern was really because selecting "Spark only" in Flash Builder makes > those classes unavailable. I'm not sure how much of an issue that really is. > Does that compiler option really make any difference in app size if you don't > use mx components? N

Re: Spark Tree

2013-03-05 Thread Harbs
> I assume you are using -link-report and some viewer like ItDepends? Yeah. I did. I used LinkReportAIR for visualization, but it was not really that helpful. What I found to be the most helpful was opening up the swf in Sothink SWF Decompiler. That allows me to see exactly what's in there. The

[jira] [Resolved] (FLEX-33417) mx.core.BitmapAsset & ByteArrayAsset missing in Flex 4.9 core.swc‏

2013-03-05 Thread Carol Frampton (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33417?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Carol Frampton resolved FLEX-33417. --- Resolution: Fixed Fix Version/s: Apache Flex Next Assignee: Carol Frampton Au

Re: svn commit: r1453009 - in /flex/sdk/branches/develop/frameworks/projects/core: build.xml compile-config.xml

2013-03-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Is this serious enough to make another minor point release? There's probably a couple of other needed fixes and AIR 3.6 we could add as well (lots of questions about this!). Thanks, Justin

Re: svn commit: r1453009 - in /flex/sdk/branches/develop/frameworks/projects/core: build.xml compile-config.xml

2013-03-05 Thread Alex Harui
On 3/5/13 1:48 PM, "Justin Mclean" wrote: > Hi, > > Is this serious enough to make another minor point release? IMO, not critical as there is a simple workaround and this only hits folks doing non-Flex, AS-only apps. > There's probably a > couple of other needed fixes and AIR 3.6 we could add

Release cycle for Apache Flex

2013-03-05 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > IMO, not critical as there is a simple workaround and this only hits folks > doing non-Flex, AS-only apps. Fair enough. > I'd be happy with every two or three months Same here you more often we release the easier it makes the release procedure. Less branch merge issues etc etc. 4.9 was re

Spelling Plus Library (SPL) Open Sourced

2013-03-05 Thread Wes Gorgichuk
Hey everyone; I've noticed a few posts recently about possibly getting Squiggly donated to this project. That got me thinking about our own (gskinner.com's) spelling library. It was a commercial project that we've had ongoing for around 6 years, however lately it has grown stagnate, so i

Re: [DRAFT] March Board Report

2013-03-05 Thread Alex Harui
OK, here is round 2 incorporating everyone's feedback: - Apache Flex is an application framework for easily building Flash-based applications for mobile devices, the browser and desktop. RELEASES Apache Flex 4.9.1 was released on 2/28/13. Apache Flex Installer 2.0.x was released on 1/

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-33417) mx.core.BitmapAsset & ByteArrayAsset missing in Flex 4.9 core.swc‏

2013-03-05 Thread Carol Frampton (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33417?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13594197#comment-13594197 ] Carol Frampton commented on FLEX-33417: --- Author: cframpton Date: Wed Mar 6 01:11:18

Re: [DRAFT] March Board Report

2013-03-05 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
+1 Looks good. On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > OK, here is round 2 incorporating everyone's feedback: > > - > Apache Flex is an application framework for easily building Flash-based > applications for mobile devices, the browser and desktop. > > RELEASES > Apache

Re: Flash finally dead?

2013-03-05 Thread Angelo Anolin
If this is really the case, then wouldn't it be best if adobe simply donates Flash to the community? On Mar 5, 2013 10:55 PM, "Federico Jakimowicz" wrote: > After reading Thibault's statements on http://www.bytearray.org/?p=5197 I > don't have any other thing to think that he is stating the deat

Re: Flash finally dead?

2013-03-05 Thread Avi Kessner
I don't see it. He has been given the job of getting flash users to use muse and for him to contribute to web standards. He is still giving a talk on scout. On Mar 6, 2013 7:55 AM, "Federico Jakimowicz" wrote: > After reading Thibault's statements on http://www.bytearray.org/?p=5197 I > don't ha

Re: Flash finally dead?

2013-03-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Not really to do with Flex development but I'll post a reply. I'd just read that that his role has changed inside Adobe. IMO worse case even if Adobe totally abandoned Flash tomorrow we would have some time (3 or 4 years) before it wasn't in common use. Flex is also actively investigating

Re: Flash finally dead?

2013-03-05 Thread Avinash Narayanan
Hi, Just want to give an organizational perspective on this. Am having a hard time convincing customers as it is to do even a desktop based app project in flex simply because they're shit scared Adobe will do something mindblowingly inconsiderate to flex like taking off flash support etc. I have n

Re: Flash finally dead?

2013-03-05 Thread Alex Harui
Here is the wiki posts on one approach to JS conversion: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Alex%27s+FlexJS+Prototype On 3/5/13 10:37 PM, "Avinash Narayanan" wrote: > Hi, > > Just want to give an organizational perspective on this. Am having a hard > time convincing customers as

Re: Flash finally dead?

2013-03-05 Thread Avi Kessner
Avinash, each company is different. Mine is currently looking to hire close to 6 more ActionScript developers. On Mar 6, 2013 8:38 AM, "Avinash Narayanan" wrote: > Hi, > > Just want to give an organizational perspective on this. Am having a hard > time convincing customers as it is to do even a

Re: Flash finally dead?

2013-03-05 Thread Avinash Narayanan
lucky you...here we have 2 options. learn JS, jQuery or leave. Thanks Avinash Y On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Avi Kessner wrote: > Avinash, each company is different. Mine is currently looking to hire > close to 6 more ActionScript developers. > On Mar 6, 2013 8:38 AM, "Avinash Narayanan"

Re: Flash finally dead?

2013-03-05 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Flex is an Apache open source project. Adobe as a company has no control over it but Adobe employees are free to (and do) contribute. That's how the ASF works. Slightly off topic but there was a very good session at ApacheCon NA on the managing the risks of using open source - perhaps it c

Re: Flash finally dead?

2013-03-05 Thread Alain Ekambi
It s when you see the core Flash engineer praising JavaScript/HTML then you know that Flash is in trouble. 2013/3/6 Justin Mclean > Hi, > > Flex is an Apache open source project. Adobe as a company has no control > over it but Adobe employees are free to (and do) contribute. That's how the > AS