Thanks, Justin.
Do they need both? If so, what order?
Best regards,
TBraz
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From: Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:49 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Installer Revisited
Hi,
Is there a means to install
they need both? If so, what order?
Best regards,
TBraz
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From: Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:49 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Installer Revisited
Hi,
Is there a means to install ApacheFlex without requiring
: dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
On 16/12/2013 10:44, Maurice Amsellem wrote:
AIR isn't required for*using* the SDK one it is built, right ?
Do you mean AIR runtime, or AIR SDK ?
Maurice
AIR the runtime.
Assuming I don't target an AIR application, then I suppose the AIR SDK
Hi,
Is there a means to install ApacheFlex without requiring the AIR package?
Yes. Look at the scripts in the IDE directory makeApacheFlexForIDE and
constructFlexForIDE.
Thanks,
Justin
On Saturday 04 Jan 2014 16:11:39 Alex Harui wrote:
Yeah, wiki stuff is out of date. You'll need to set up environment
variables. Hopefully the error messages are informative enough to give
you a clue.
Well, yes, but I didn't understand why the Flex compiler needs a path to a
Flex install -
On 1/5/14 6:33 AM, Tom Chiverton t...@apache.org wrote:
I might also be able to
post my binaries after I get a few kinks worked out.
Giving that a go - again, what's the FLEX_HOME variable required for here
?
Falcon is currently set up to be injected into a Flex or FlexJS SDK. I
have done
On Friday 03 Jan 2014 19:23:58 Alex Harui wrote:
Hi Tom,
Thanks for trying it. I think these scripts are expecting to be run
inside an expanded binary package. Run ant release,
falken@wopr:~/workspace/flex-falcon$ ant release
Buildfile: /home/falken/workspace/flex-falcon/build.xml
Yeah, wiki stuff is out of date. You'll need to set up environment
variables. Hopefully the error messages are informative enough to give
you a clue.
I'll try to take a shot at updating the wiki. I might also be able to
post my binaries after I get a few kinks worked out.
-Alex
On 1/4/14
I posted my binary packages here:
http://people.apache.org/~aharui/FlexJS/binaries/
Running ant -f installer.xml install worked for me on mac. I'm going to
be trying on Windows tomorrow. You will need to modify the
local.properties to point to the installer-config-4.0.xml and other
packages.
On 02/01/2014 18:06, Alex Harui wrote:
OK. I'm essentially ignorant as to how installs happen on Linux. If you
have time, can you try to get the installer.xml files to run for
flex-falcon/flex-asjs on Linux?
It's a bit like .dmg on MacOS in that a single file contains the
dependency and
So one of the goals of rewriting the installer is to get us out of the
business of needing to create platform-dependent artifacts. Ideally, the
next release of the Apache Flex Installer would be the last one ever. All
further installs are done by having the Installer execute an ant script in
a
On Friday 03 Jan 2014 09:19:13 you wrote:
On 02/01/2014 18:06, Alex Harui wrote:
OK. I'm essentially ignorant as to how installs happen on Linux. If you
have time, can you try to get the installer.xml files to run for
flex-falcon/flex-asjs on Linux?
Separate sections below for each.
Hi Tom,
Thanks for trying it. I think these scripts are expecting to be run
inside an expanded binary package. Run ant release, get the binary
package from the out folder, expand that somewhere and then run the
installer.xml from in there.
Thanks,
-Alex
On 1/3/14 10:53 AM, Tom Chiverton
On 17/12/2013 14:15, Alex Harui wrote:
You are welcome to take on writing the installer.xml for flex-sdk, or I
will get to it over the next few weeks. My current plan (once I get past
this PGP Key fiasco) is to get the flex-asjs and flex-falcon ant scripts
to work then get ant_on_air to run
On 1/2/14 3:05 AM, Tom Chiverton t...@extravision.com wrote:
But it sounds like the plan is to structure things so that the installer
(AIR or Shell based) can download an archive and then just unpack it and
run ant, and ant will take care of putting stuff in the correct place ?
And the list of
Oh, I forgot. If you try to run installer.xml from flex-asjs, you need to
have run ant release in flex-falcon and point to the bin.zip with
something like:
falcon.url.path=file:///Users/aharui/git/flex/master/flex-falcon/out
On 1/2/14 8:23 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
On 1/2/14
On 02/01/2014 16:23, Alex Harui wrote:
Sort of. I'm not envisioning a shell based installer. Just an AIR-based
installer like we have now, or else we assume you have Ant installed and
you download an archive, unpack it, and run ant install or something
like that.
My thoughts are that second
On 1/2/14 8:51 AM, Tom Chiverton t...@extravision.com wrote:
On 02/01/2014 16:23, Alex Harui wrote:
Sort of. I'm not envisioning a shell based installer. Just an
AIR-based
installer like we have now, or else we assume you have Ant installed and
you download an archive, unpack it, and run
On 16/12/2013 20:24, Alex Harui wrote:
On 12/16/13 11:14 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Linux, we can probably assume that Ant is already installed, or just a
'yum install' away from being available. That way, they can just use the
ant script just as well.
I checked in an ant script for flex-falcon. The proposed pattern is to
put it all in an installer.xml file. It presumes you have expanded the
binary kit and am running ant -f installer.xml in that expanded kit. It
will download and copy stuff into that same folder. I guess maybe we
should add
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Installer Revisited
You can have multiple different JDK versions at once can't you ? Even on
Windows ?
I didn't think we were suggesting not having a GUI installer for the
SDK, just that under the hood it would call an ant task ?
Tom
On 17/12/2013 14:46
On 15/12/2013 15:51, Maurice Amsellem wrote:
In which case, would it make sense that the installer won't be based solely on
Adobe technology?
Maurice
Ahh, interesting, because I was starting to work on an PPA for Ubuntu
users that would correctly install AIR and it's dependencies and then
AIR isn't required for *using* the SDK one it is built, right ?
Do you mean AIR runtime, or AIR SDK ?
Maurice
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De : Tom Chiverton [mailto:t...@extravision.com]
Envoyé : lundi 16 décembre 2013 11:38
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
On 15/12
On 16/12/2013 10:44, Maurice Amsellem wrote:
AIR isn't required for*using* the SDK one it is built, right ?
Do you mean AIR runtime, or AIR SDK ?
Maurice
AIR the runtime.
Assuming I don't target an AIR application, then I suppose the AIR SDK
is required, but this is installed by the
Hi,
AIR isn't required for *using* the SDK one it is built, right ?
Correct you can build and install an SDK without using the installer - take a
look at the scripts in the ide directory.
Thanks,
Justin
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
On 16/12/2013 10:44, Maurice Amsellem wrote:
AIR isn't required for*using* the SDK one it is built, right ?
Do you mean AIR runtime, or AIR SDK ?
Maurice
AIR the runtime.
Assuming I don't target an AIR application, then I suppose the AIR SDK is
required
That's interesting.
On Mac, folks are given a dmg file that essentially installs the installer
and I don't believe it requires that AIR is already installed. Or am I
wrong about that?
On Linux, you're saying the package we create still requires a separate
install of AIR?
I'm not a huge fan
, 2013 1:03 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Installer Revisited
That's interesting.
On Mac, folks are given a dmg file that essentially installs the installer
and I don't believe it requires that AIR is already installed. Or am I
wrong about that?
On Linux, you're saying the package we
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
That's interesting.
On Mac, folks are given a dmg file that essentially installs the installer
and I don't believe it requires that AIR is already installed. Or am I
wrong about that?
Yes, no need for an AIR install.
On 12/16/13 11:14 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Linux, we can probably assume that Ant is already installed, or just a
'yum install' away from being available. That way, they can just use the
ant script just as well.
Interesting. Tom, do you agree that Ant would be
[mailto:mark.kessler@usmc.mil]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:49 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: RE: Installer Revisited
I heard it isn't on WinXP. Do we need to support that?
XP support ends April 8th 2014 [1]. I would say not to support it.
[1] http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end
Hi,
Do you guys know the breakdown of which OS's are downloading?
Via the installer it's 74% window, 25% OSX and 1% linux. Via other mean we
don't know ie compiling the source or using the binaries and then running the
ide scripts. I usually use the IDE scripts.
Thanks,
Justin
Hi,
The stats of which versions of windows use the installer is unclear. We did
have one person use the installer to install 4.11 on Windows NT. Wonder how
that worked out for them?
Justin
Any reaction to the Java-based installer proposition below (Point B) ?
Maurice
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De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 09:17
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : RE: Installer Revisited
(Point A)
I thought Air
Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com
wrote:
Any reaction to the Java-based installer proposition below (Point B) ?
Maurice
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De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 09:17
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : RE: Installer
15 décembre 2013 16:35
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
Ah, sorry, missed seeing that earlier.
My personal goal is that, someday, a newbie's initial experience when coming to
Apache Flex to learn about Flex is a showcase for Flex. That our current
landing page is fully
that the installer won't be based
solely on Adobe technology?
Maurice
-Message d'origine-
De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : dimanche 15 décembre 2013 16:35
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
Ah, sorry, missed seeing that earlier.
My personal goal
be based
solely on Adobe technology?
Maurice
-Message d'origine-
De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : dimanche 15 décembre 2013 16:35
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
Ah, sorry, missed seeing that earlier.
My personal goal is that, someday
@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
Ah, sorry, missed seeing that earlier.
My personal goal is that, someday, a newbie's initial experience when
coming to Apache Flex to learn about Flex is a showcase for Flex. That
our
current landing page is fully replicated by FlexJS, and our
...
Regards,
Maurice
-Message d'origine-
De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de OmPrakash
Muppirala
Envoyé : dimanche 15 décembre 2013 18:01
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
On Dec 15, 2013 8:37 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote
Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 01:42
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
The ant_on_air stuff is brand new and full of bugs. I thought Air followed
redirects. There must be code in the installer that does the right thing.
Feel free to find
The FlexJS SDK build is a little more involved than a 'regular' Flex
SDK build, from an Installer point of view. Instead of adding yet
another monolithic code path to the Installer, Alex's idea boils down
to building a 'can handle all builds' installer by using existing ant
build files.
A big +1
: Erik de Bruin [mailto:e...@ixsoftware.nl]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 10:08
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
The FlexJS SDK build is a little more involved than a 'regular' Flex SDK build,
from an Installer point of view. Instead of adding yet another monolithic code
d'origine-
De : Justin Mclean [mailto:jus...@classsoftware.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 09:52
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
Hi,
A few questions:
The installer can also run locally ie not download anything but copy local
files. Can we do this with ant for air
: Installer Revisited
The FlexJS SDK build is a little more involved than a 'regular' Flex SDK
build, from an Installer point of view. Instead of adding yet another
monolithic code path to the Installer, Alex's idea boils down to building a
'can handle all builds' installer by using existing ant build
Hi Alex,
I like better the first idea (that the script is in the first package to
download, in a known place).
Furthermore, that would merge the logic for building the SDK manually and
building from the installer in one single build file, right ?
One question: what is ant_on_air? I googled
Found it: ant_on_air is in flex_utility repo.
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De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
Envoyé : mercredi 11 décembre 2013 23:54
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : RE: Installer Revisited
Hi Alex,
I like better the first idea (that the script
On 12/11/13 2:53 PM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com
wrote:
Hi Alex,
I like better the first idea (that the script is in the first package to
download, in a known place).
Furthermore, that would merge the logic for building the SDK manually and
building from the installer in one
manually for a manual build of an operational SDK.
(this secondary build only contains Get, Unzip, Copy, etc...)
Makes sense ?
Maurice
-Message d'origine-
De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 00:00
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer
]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 00:00
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
On 12/11/13 2:53 PM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com
wrote:
Hi Alex,
I like better the first idea (that the script is in the first package
to download, in a known place).
Furthermore
: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 00:53
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
Yup, makes sense.
-Alex
On 12/11/13 3:18 PM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com
wrote:
I guess it is a separate question whether the main build.xml should
...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 00:53
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Installer Revisited
Yup, makes sense.
-Alex
On 12/11/13 3:18 PM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com
wrote:
I guess it is a separate question whether the main build.xml should
call out
Hi,
Little bit lost on the thread here - but I assume that you'll still be able to
build a source and binary release without using ant for air. I rather not add
yet another stumbling block to compile or use on a CI machine.
Thanks,
Justin
Right, ant_on_air is only for the installer to use to run an ant target
without ant installed. That target will be added to build.xml or its own
xml file and just upgrade a binary package into an IDE compatible
directory structure. It should not need to compile anything.
All other targets will
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