Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-14 Thread Jonathan Revusky
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 12:01 PM Daniel Dekany wrote: > To clarify, he calls it simply "FreeMarker" (no "Apache" in it), and it's > from a branch that was made (and then was abandoned for, I guess, 12 years, > or so) long before donation to Apache. Right. Thanks for making that point. Though I

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-13 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Thanks Jonathan for all the details. I'll have a deeper look... Jacques Le 12/11/2023 à 22:03, Jonathan Revusky a écrit : On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 8:02 AM Jacques Le Roux < jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: Hi Jonathan, Salut, Jacques. What about existing projects using the Apache ver

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-13 Thread Taher Alkhateeb
Hello Jonathan and All, Please excuse my limited knowledge of the project's history. If we assume the  software is indeed improved as stated, it seems logical to consider integrating this work back into Apache Freemarker. Perhaps it could be done through a distinct branch or versioning strategy.

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-12 Thread Jonathan Revusky
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 8:29 PM Benjamin Marwell wrote: > >> It can never be on Maven central, because the namespace (groupid) > >> "freemarker" is already claimed by Apache Freemarker. > >> > > > Well, Ben... it is kind of disrespectful to talk > such blatant nonsense > to > > somebody. This is

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-12 Thread Jonathan Revusky
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 8:02 AM Jacques Le Roux < jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > Salut, Jacques. > > What about existing projects using the Apache version ? > Well, what about them? The basic problem is here not very different from the decision to upgrade to a newer, not

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-12 Thread Daniel Dekany
To clarify, he calls it simply "FreeMarker" (no "Apache" in it), and it's from a branch that was made (and then was abandoned for, I guess, 12 years, or so) long before donation to Apache. But, with the donation to ASF, "FreeMarker" is the trademark of the ASF. On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 6:45 AM wro

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-11 Thread lenny
Hi, Jonathan, First of all, I am disappointed to see all the personal attacks from you here. There is no cause of need for this. Let’s keep civilized. The major issue here I believe is that (at least in my perception) you are trying to take the project out of Apache, but not following the rules

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-10 Thread Benjamin Marwell
>> It can never be on Maven central, because the namespace (groupid) >> "freemarker" is already claimed by Apache Freemarker. >> > Well, Ben... it is kind of disrespectful to talk > such blatant nonsense to > somebody. This is supposed to be some serious technical forum, isn't it? Interesting ho

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-10 Thread Daniel Dekany
> I never knew there was an "original" freemarker project. See https://freemarker.apache.org/history.html On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 9:00 PM Benjamin Marwell wrote: > I never knew there was an "original" freemarker project. > Your web site is down, the documentation on the GitHub project is sparse

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-09 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi Jonathan, What about existing projects using the Apache version ? I mean the move from 2.3 version to 2.4. Like: 1. Would it be an easy move? 2. What does it brings? 3. What are the pros and cons of each version? 4. etc. I guess that's not easy questions to answer to (4 being somehow a joke

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-09 Thread Jonathan Revusky
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 9:00 PM Benjamin Marwell wrote: > I never knew there was an "original" freemarker project. > So you actually thought that FreeMarker was developed at Apache? Well, no. FreeMarker is a very very old project at this point. FreeMarker 1 was originally written by a guy named

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-09 Thread Jonathan Revusky
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 6:40 PM Taher Alkhateeb wrote: Hi Taher, > I'm a little confused. Why aren't we joining efforts on the apache version? Well, in an ideal world, that is what would happen, yes. But this is hardly an ideal situation. > Why make it "a pity if a wider group of > people n

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-09 Thread Benjamin Marwell
I never knew there was an "original" freemarker project. Your web site is down, the documentation on the GitHub project is sparse. There is no way to tell whether it really is more advanced or not. It can never be on Maven central, because the namespace (groupid) "freemarker" is already claimed by

Re: Long-Awaited FreeMarker 3 Preview Available

2023-11-09 Thread Taher Alkhateeb
I'm a little confused. Why aren't we joining efforts on the apache version? Why make it "a pity if a wider group of people never get the benefit of this work"? Am I missing something too obvious or too old or something? Is this code base completely incompatible? Is this a technical issue? Tahe