Thanks, guys, I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-28072
I believe we all agree to introduce style checking to at least try to avoid
further issues and how or whether to force it is a different question, feel
free to follow HIVE-28072

Regards,
Laszlo Bodor


Zoltán Rátkai <zrat...@cloudera.com.invalid> ezt írta (időpont: 2024. jan.
8., H, 11:55):

> +1
>
> I think most of the devs use IntelliJ, where no other plugin needed to have
> a Code Style. It can even import Eclipse formatting file.
>
> Regards,
>
> RZ
>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 10:22 AM Stamatis Zampetakis <zabe...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 for enforcing style on new code. It will definitely save us from
> > additional review cycles.
> >
> > Although I like checkstyle I tend to prefer tools that can
> > automatically apply and fix style violations such as spotless [1].
> >
> > It seems that the spotless plugin can be configured to enforce
> > formatting gradually [2] so I think it is an ideal choice for this
> > discussion.
> >
> > To avoid wasting CI resources for nothing we can employ spotless (or
> > other plugins) during the regular build so that detect and fix style
> > violations fail early on before raising the PR.
> >
> > Finally, spotless can be configured easily to apply Eclipse styles so
> > making it use our recommended formatting [3] would be trivial.
> >
> > Best,
> > Stamatis
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/diffplug/spotless
> > [2]
> >
> https://github.com/diffplug/spotless/tree/main/plugin-maven#how-can-i-enforce-formatting-gradually-aka-ratchet
> > [3]
> >
> https://github.com/apache/hive/blob/master/dev-support/eclipse-styles.xml
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 11:06 AM Zsolt Miskolczi
> > <zsolt.miskol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think giving a warning is something that nobody will check. It could
> > only
> > > make sense if it is formatted in a way that it cannot be overseen. In
> > every
> > > other case, it is just ignored. And also, we are already full of
> warnings
> > > so I'm afraid it can just hide in the noise.
> > > Sorry, I don't know how it works in hadoop/tez, maybe it is easy to
> use.
> > >
> > > Ayush Saxena <ayush...@gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2024. jan. 8., H,
> > > 9:53):
> > >
> > > > +1, to have a checkstyle build. I am strongly against doing that big
> > > > refactor to make just checkstyle happy, such a refactor will make
> > > > backports to Hive lower branches tough and the life of folks
> > > > maintaining downstream forks quite painful.
> > > >
> > > > We should enforce same kind of stuff like in Tez/Hadoop, where
> > > > checkstyle violations are highlighted and the committer before
> > > > committing can check that & decide whether that in unavoidable or not
> > > >
> > > > -Ayush
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 at 14:05, László Bodor <bodorlaszlo0...@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for the responses so far!
> > > > > I'm a bit against the one-time huge refactor commit as we don't
> need
> > that
> > > > > (but I can be convinced of course), because checkstyle can be set
> up
> > to
> > > > > warn only on style issues in the new/touched bits in the PR (or at
> > least
> > > > > that's how it works in tez), that's what we need, so we don't have
> to
> > > > make
> > > > > that huge commit to simply introduce this enforcement
> > > > >
> > > > > Butao Zhang <butaozha...@163.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2024. jan.
> 8.,
> > H,
> > > > > 9:28):
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW, We have a independent checkstyle file under iceberg module
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/hive/tree/master/iceberg/checkstyle .
> I
> > > > think
> > > > > > we need to consider unifing the checkstyle in all the sub-module.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Butao Zhang
> > > > > > ---- Replied Message ----
> > > > > > | From | Zsolt Miskolczi<zsolt.miskol...@gmail.com> |
> > > > > > | Date | 1/8/2024 16:19 |
> > > > > > | To | <dev@hive.apache.org> |
> > > > > > | Subject | Re: Force coding style in hive precommit |
> > > > > > +1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In case there is an agreement about the coding style, we can
> > prepare a
> > > > tool
> > > > > > that enforces that style at compile time. Run a tool one time to
> > > > re-format
> > > > > > all the existing code once. And turn on a compile time check.
> > Iceberg
> > > > did
> > > > > > the same approach, they had one huge commit with almost 4k files
> > > > changed
> > > > > > and from that point, it worked well. And there are no issues
> about
> > > > > > formatting.
> > > > > > I don't think putting a warning message helps at all. Also, it
> > should
> > > > be
> > > > > > enforced on compile time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Zsolt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kirti Ruge <kirtirug...@gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2024. jan.
> > 8.,
> > > > H,
> > > > > > 7:20):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1
> > > > > > As it would improve maintainability and code reviews. Sometimes
> > small
> > > > > > indentation/styling issues would kill review cycle time and we
> can
> > > > easily
> > > > > > avoid it before requesting review.
> > > > > > Enforcing more rules around it definitely boost guaranteeing
> > quality.
> > > > We
> > > > > > can integrate it with git hooks. If we are going for this, I can
> > work
> > > > on
> > > > > > getting it in place .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Kirti
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 08-Jan-2024, at 11:36 AM, Akshat m <akshatats...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1, We do have a documentation round it as well:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Hive/HowToContribute#HowToContribute-CodingConventions
> > > > > > so it makes sense to enforce it as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Right now we have a small section around this in documentation,
> We
> > can
> > > > > > also
> > > > > > expand this to a new page and add more Java practices to it as
> well
> > > > which
> > > > > > are followed in the project while we are at this, Will be a great
> > > > > > addition
> > > > > > to Hive 4 documentation, I can pick it up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I suggest we add this style check as a pre-commit git hook as
> > well, so
> > > > it
> > > > > > is enforced when the author is committing locally as well, this
> can
> > > > save
> > > > > > the wait time for pre-commit failure in the PR for the author to
> > > > realise
> > > > > > the styling issues, ideally this should be taken care of with the
> > ide
> > > > > > style
> > > > > > configuration but in case we miss it this would error out while
> > > > > > committing the changes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Akshat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 10:17 AM László Bodor <
> > > > bodorlaszlo0...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi All!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do you think about forcing coding style in Hive precommit?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I remember, back in the old days, precommit printed some warnings
> > in
> > > > > > case
> > > > > > some coding style (formatting, indentation, naming convention,
> > etc.)
> > > > > > problems were found in the patch, now it's simply not used, I
> guess
> > > > > > since
> > > > > > we're using GitHub PRs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For example: I remember I simply approved a PR a few months ago
> > which
> > > > > > LGTM, and later just realized it's full of 4-spaces indentation,
> > which
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > wrong if we assume that code should be formatted according to the
> > style
> > > > > > definition here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/hive/blob/master/dev-support/eclipse-styles.xml
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have just attached an example of Tez PR to open minds and
> start a
> > > > > > conversation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Laszlo Bodor
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
>

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