Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-16 Thread Carl Steinbach
Hi Olga, > Switching everybody to HiveServer2 has performance and scale consequences > that might not be acceptable for every use case. > Just wanted to make sure you're aware that it's possible to run HiveServer2 in a thick-client mode where it sits embedded in the client JVM process. This allo

RE: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-08 Thread Olga L. Natkovich
ask to decouple Hive 1.0 discussion from removing CLI. Thanks, Olga -Original Message- From: Thejas Nair [mailto:the...@hortonworks.com] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 12:59 PM To: dev@hive.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ? I don't know for sure if beeline has fi

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-07 Thread Brock Noland
FYI that it's pretty close in terms of functionality. Dong and Ferdinand have done a ton of work here. On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Thejas Nair wrote: > I don't know for sure if beeline has finally reached feature parity > with hive cli. I haven't looked at that very closely. I think we > sh

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-06 Thread Thejas Nair
I don't know for sure if beeline has finally reached feature parity with hive cli. I haven't looked at that very closely. I think we should start a separate thread on it and discuss with the community. On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Carl Steinbach wrote: > Hi Thejas, > > I agree that it's impo

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-06 Thread Carl Steinbach
Hi Thejas, I agree that it's important to give users adequate time to migrate off of HiveCLI. In order to avoid wasting time what do you think about including this deprecation notice in the 1.0 release? On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Thejas Nair wrote: > HiveServer, and the original JDBC drive

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-04 Thread Thejas Nair
HiveServer, and the original JDBC driver have already been purged in trunk. The HiveServer1 docs have been asking users to use HiveServer2 for a long time. The case with Hive CLI is different. We never marked that as deprecated or asked users to use beeline instead. Beeline had been lacking in som

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-04 Thread Thejas Nair
Enis, What you said about backward compatibility makes sense. Since we are planning to remove HiveServer1 support, it makes sense to do that in 1.0. Ending Java 6 support is also something we have been discussing in the mailing list. We can document Java 7 as minimum requirement for 1.0 . On Wed,

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-04 Thread Carl Steinbach
I'd like to see HiveCLI, HiveServer, and the original JDBC driver deprecated and purged from the codebase before the 1.0 release. This topic probably needs its own thread, but I thought I should mention it here. Thanks. - Carl On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Enis Söztutar wrote: > Hi, > > I am

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-04 Thread Sergey Shelukhin
I think 1.0 release in particular should be a relatively stable release, since we go from "beta"(?) stage of 0.x to 1.0. Otherwise, what prevents us from promoting 0.14 to 1.0? 0.14.1 is not done yet, so it would be great, we will have no 0.x.y releases, and 1.1 will become the first fix release, n

RE: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-04 Thread Bill Busch
| Advanced Analytics | Big Data |  ECI|  EPM | MDM -Original Message- From: Enis Söztutar [mailto:e...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 5:27 PM To: dev@hive.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ? Hi, I am the RM for HBase-1.0 coming in a a couple of weeks (hopefully). I

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-04 Thread Brock Noland
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Enis Söztutar wrote: > Hi, > > I am the RM for HBase-1.0 coming in a a couple of weeks (hopefully). I > think both HBase and Hive are past due for doing 1.0 releases. So I am a > major +1 for Hive-1.0 (non-binding of course). > Agreed :) > > The important thing f

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-03 Thread Enis Söztutar
Hi, I am the RM for HBase-1.0 coming in a a couple of weeks (hopefully). I think both HBase and Hive are past due for doing 1.0 releases. So I am a major +1 for Hive-1.0 (non-binding of course). The important thing for calling something 1.0 I think is the focus on user level API and compatibility

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-02 Thread Lefty Leverenz
Would everyone just laugh if I suggested that a 1.0 release ought to include complete documentation? -- Lefty On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Thejas Nair wrote: > The reasons for confusion in the Hadoop case were different. There > were many branches, and new features were added in minor versi

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-02 Thread Thejas Nair
The reasons for confusion in the Hadoop case were different. There were many branches, and new features were added in minor version releases, eg kerberos security was not there in "0.20.2", but it was added in "0.20.20x". Then you had other versions like "0.21", but the older "0.20.20x" version wa

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-02 Thread Xuefu Zhang
Major release means more functionality, while minor releases provides stability. Therefore, I'd think, 1.0, as a major release, should bring in something new to the user. If it's desirable to provide more stable release, then 0.14.1, 0.14.2, and so on are the right ones. In my opinion, we should av

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-02 Thread Sergey Shelukhin
I think it's better to do 1.0 release off a maintenance release, since that is more stable. Trunk is moving fast. HBase uses odd release numbers for this purpose, where 0.95, 97, 99 etc. are dev releases and 0.96, 0.98, 1.0 etc. are public; that works well for baking, but since we don't have that s

Re: Apache Hive 1.0 ?

2014-12-02 Thread Brock Noland
Hi Thejas, Thank you very much for your proposal! Hadoop did something similar renaming branches to branch-1 and branch-2. At the time, although I was very much in favor of the new release numbers, I thought it could have been handled better. Renaming release branches ended up being very confusin