I am closing this VOTE off now. Thank you to everyone that VOTE'd. RESULT
is as follows
[6] +1 retire the HTrace podling
Lewis John McGibbney*
Sheng Wu
Ralph Goers*
P. Taylor Goetz*
Dave Fisher*
Pierre Smits*
[0] -1 NOT NOT retire the HTrace podling (please provide justification)
* IPMC Bi
Hi Folks,
Please excuse the error on my part, which essentially missed this important
stage of VOTE'ing on general@ for official retirement of the HTrace Podling.
However, we are here now. The VOTE will be open for a minimum of 72 hours.
The previous community VOTE [0] took place on the HTrace dev@
Hi Folks,
OK, so the process is well underway.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16335
Once this is done, I will pick things back up from the bottom bullet point
"...After Infra modifies the website SVN permissions, disable the podling
website by installing an .htaccess like this..."
Lewi
Hi Folks,
OK, 72 hours has well and truly come and gone... many times over. I am
therefore going to close with a RESULT.
[ ] +1 retire the HTrace podling
Lewis John McGibbney
Sean Busby
Jake Farrell
Mike Drob
Michael Stack
Masatake Iwasaki
[0] -1 NOT NOT retire the HTrace podling (please
Hi Billie,
Thanks
I'm not sure that letting this sit for too much longer is doing any favours
for anyone to be honest.
Additionally, I think it has probably sat for way too long already.
I'll give it to end of weekend then close VOTE and begin retirement to
Attic.
Thanks
Lewis
On Fri, Apr 6, 2018
Hi Folks,
... this thread seems to have petered out.
I intentionally kept the VOTE thread open to see how the subproject
initiative developed, however it would seem that it has failed to gather
any more momentum over and above an initial discussion
Is the above statement fair? Is anyone actually w
general@incubator thread link inline
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:27 PM, lewis john mcgibbney
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> The decision to initiate retirement is not usually an enjoyable one. It
> would appear that those whose of us who have VOTE'd have made it quite
> clear that retire
Hi HTrace PPMC,
I thought I would directly pass on the below VOTE for consideration.
Thanks
Lewis
-- Forwarded message --
From: lewis john mcgibbney
Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:49 AM
Subject: [VOTE] Retire HTrace from Incubation
To: dev@htrace.incubator.apache.org
Hi Folks
X.
I'll hang on with the VOTE for another ~72 hours and if nothing come of the
above then I will most likely VOTE to retire HTrace.
Lewis
[0] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/htrace
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:49 AM, lewis john mcgibbney
wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> Below I've po
Hi Sheng,
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:55 PM, <
dev-digest-h...@htrace.incubator.apache.org> wrote:
>
> From: Sheng Wu
> To: Adrian Cole , dev@htrace.incubator.apache.org,
> d...@skywalking.incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 18:36:17 +0800
> Subject: Re: Re: [VOTE] Retire HT
Hi Mike,
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:55 PM, <
dev-digest-h...@htrace.incubator.apache.org> wrote:
>
> From: Mike Drob
> To: dev@htrace.incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2018 22:16:46 -0600
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Retire HTrace from Incubation
> There's a distinction between the c
016-03-04
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
2016-10-03
Signed-off-by:
[ ](htrace) Jake Farrell
Comments:
[ ](htrace) Todd Lipcon
Comments:
[X](htrace) Lewis John Mcgibbney
Comments: In our January 2018 report we mentioned that
"HTrace is
ipcon
Comments: [x](htrace) Lewis John Mcgibbney Comments: HTrace is
very quiet. There is opportunity to continue work is we engage
with projects already using HTrace. If that does not happen, we
should retire the podling. [ ](htrace) Andrew Purtell Comments:
[x](htrace) Billie Ri
Hi John,
This surfaced again about a month or so ago and although opinions were
voiced that HTrace should not retire, I have not seen any activity.
I think the writing is on the wall is it would appear committers do not
quite have the time to move things forward.
Lewis
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:32
Excellent
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 6:05 PM
wrote:
>
> dev Digest 1 Oct 2017 01:04:58 - Issue 248
>
> Topics (messages 1024 through 1024)
>
> HTrace activity in HBase and Hadoop
> 1024 by: Colin McCabe
>
> Administrivia:
>
> -
Hi Mike,
I think this is a fair question. We've probably all been associated with
projects which just don't really make it. It would appear that HTrace is
one of them. This is not to say that there is nothing going on with the
tracing effort generally (as there is) but it looks like HTrace as a
pro
Done, Please scope out and sign off or add.
Thanks Jake and others.
Lewis
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:28 AM, <
dev-digest-h...@htrace.incubator.apache.org> wrote:
>
> dev Digest 7 Sep 2016 17:28:19 - Issue 180
>
> Topics (messages 831 through 831)
>
> Re: Podling Report Reminder - September 201
Hi Folks,
Are there any ongoing or planned engagements/collaborations ongoing with
any of the above? I spoke with a couple of folks @ApacheCon last week and
they were keen to connect with dev@ on a face-to-face basis to see what was
going on.
Is/are anyone from HTrace involved in these activities?
Hi Folks,
So I consume htrace-core4 in the Nuch Java application. I am however not
able to see the HTrace DEBUG log statements.
I am aware that HTrace uses commons-logging and I have tried adding
commons-logging.properties on my classpath with the following contents
org.apache.commons.logging.Log=
Hi Folks,
For test and development and also for new comers coming to HTrace I am not
sure if it is realistic for such a high default buffer to be set for
Htraced. Right now is appears that the default value is 16,777,216 bytes
which is pretty large if one wishes to get a feel for the HTrace framewo
Hi Mike,
Thanks for this. I would have thought there were more config options but it
looks like I am currently using everything available.
Thanks for confirming.
Lewis
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> Where can I
Hi Folks,
Where is the htraced documentation?
Thanks
Lewis
--
*Lewis*
Hi Folks,
Where can I find a list of Configuration keys in HTrace?
Thanks
Lewis
--
*Lewis*
Hi Folks,
when I attempt to build master branch I get the following error
lmcgibbn@LMC-032857 /usr/local/incubator-htrace(master) $ mvn -version
Apache Maven 3.3.3 (7994120775791599e205a5524ec3e0dfe41d4a06;
2015-04-22T04:57:37-07:00)
Maven home: /usr/local/apache-maven-3.3.3
Java version: 1.8.0_66
Hi Folks,
There is a closed stging repos for HTrace
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachehtrace-1021/
Can someone close this off? It would be hellish if someone were to release
it accidentally.
Thanks
Lewis
--
*Lewis*
Hi Mike,
No it's just not been updated.
We should push up an update with both of the items below.
Can you lgo a Jira ticket please?
Thanks
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:50 PM, <
dev-digest-h...@htrace.incubator.apache.org> wrote:
>
> From: Mike Drob
> To: dev@htrace.incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Date
Hi Folks,
A heads up that I sent in a proposal to Apache Big Data on the above topic.
Very pleased that it was accepted and I hope to be in Vancouver to share
experiences.
The is based on my ongoing work on
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NUTCH-2005
I would like to share slides and get feedba
I am of the opinion that we should definitely have the PR's being shadowed
to this list.
It provides us with context about new contributions and more importantly
new community members.
Thanks Andrey for hitting the lists and letting us know about that.
I filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/
Hi Colin,
+1 from me. All my usual tests have passed and I am happy with this RC.
Apologies for late review. This one dropped off the TODO list of TODO's :)
Good job Colin and team. :)
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 7:00 PM, wrote:
>
> Subject: HTrace 4.1 release candidate 2
> Hi all,
>
> I've posted t
Hi Colin,
Thanks for filing issues.
+1 to release this release candidate.
Lewis
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:45 AM, <
dev-digest-h...@htrace.incubator.apache.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks for looking at this, Lewis.
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney
>
Hi Colin,
Signatures Good
Aggregated results of running DRAT over the release candidate
Notes Binaries Archives Standards Apache Generated Unknown
0 0 0 142 118 0 15
Unapproved licenses include
/usr/local/drat/deploy/data/jobs/rat/1454465689433/input/bootstrap-theme.css
/usr/local/drat/deploy/
Hi Colin,
Really cool. I was in Pasadena and sadly missed you and your presentation.
Maybe next time, please post here if you are presenting on HTrace again.
I wonder if anyone is planning on taking HTrace talks to ApacheCon?
Thanks
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:51 PM, wrote:
>
>
> Subject: state of
Hi Folks,
It is good practice to remove old artifacts from the URL below once a new
release is pushed.
Release are achived at archive.apache.org
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/htrace/
It might be confusing to a new user coming to HTrace if they see 4
artifacts for download.
We
Yes YEs YEs
Good thinking Colin :)
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:53 PM, <
dev-digest-h...@htrace.incubator.apache.org> wrote:
> Happy new year!
>
> I think it's time to cut the 4.1 release. We've fixed up a lot of
> bugs, and made a lot of progress since 4.0.1.
>
> If everyone agrees, I'll post some
Hi Elliott,
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 9:05 AM, wrote:
>
> I'm at least not aware of anyone doing that in the open source world. The
> browser makes everything a little harder since there are almost no
> guarantees about how long a page will be open.
>
>
Thanks for response.
I worked with Draper Lab
Hi Folks,
I wonder if anyone has deployed tracing software for monitoring
browser-based user behaviour?
I know this is not HTrace but it is topically relevant I hope.
Thanks for any heads up.
Lewis
--
*Lewis*
Hi Team,
Quick thread from me here.
What is required to get another release of HTrace?
I see two issues are unresolved for 4.1 release
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HTRACE/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:issues-panel
I also see the rest of the issues assigned against no
Hi Team,
There are still a number of staging artifacts present over at
https://repository.apache.org/#stagingRepositories.
Can someone drop these please as it would be extremely unfortunate if these
were accidentally released.
Thanks,
Lewis
--
*Lewis*
Hi Folks,
Excellent work on getting recent 4.0.0-incubating release out the door.
I wonder if there is documentation available for a release manager? If so
does it currently contain advice on how to update the HTrace website with
the info for the release?
Right now I don't even see the HTrace artif
Hi Colin,
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:44 AM, <
dev-digest-h...@htrace.incubator.apache.org> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what you mean when you say that "most issues are not
> assigned to any release at all." Pretty much every issue has a "fix
> version" which is the release it was fixed in, and an "af
Hi Masatake,
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:44 AM, <
dev-digest-h...@htrace.incubator.apache.org> wrote:
>
> HTRACE-234 was filed for this. Which version of Maven are you using?
>
>
lmcgibbn@LMC-032857 /usr/local(master) $ mvn -version
Apache Maven 3.3.3 (7994120775791599e205a5524ec3e0dfe41d4a06;
2015
Hi Colin
I saw no RESULT thread to close this one off. Maybe my email archive is
just lagging. I also get digest emails so apologies if this has been closed
off.
Thanks
Lewis
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 5:13 PM, wrote:
>
> I started a vote on gene...@incubator.apache.org, be sure to head over
> ther
Hi Folks,
Further to this, is it possible for someone to go through the components
and create components for each module as well as one for website?
Thanks
Lewis
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> What is ha
Hi Folks,
What is happening with versioning on Jira?
Master branch runs off of 4.0.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT, the only version which
exists within Jira is 4.1.
Most issues are not assigned to any release at all.
Can someone sort it out and we could potentially set a roadmap for
releasing HTrace 4.0/4.0
Hi Colin,
Nice work in getting the release candidate prepared and available for
review.
Where is the KEYS file?
I tried the one here
http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/htrace/KEYS
It does not contain your sig so I cannot verify the release sigs.
Moving on,
Notes Binaries Archives Standards A
Hi Daniel,
I don't think they are.
You could build them with the source.
Mvn javadoc:aggregate
We should host them online and build this in to the release procedure.
Lewis
On Monday, June 15, 2015, Daniel Lee wrote:
> I noticed in the java source there is extensive javadoc annotation.
> Are the
Yes definitely lets get one out. Good job folks.
On Tuesday, June 2, 2015, Abraham Elmahrek wrote:
> Hey man,
>
> Good point. Should we send out an announce email even though it's a few
> weeks after the fact?
>
> -Abe
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Nick Dimiduk > wrote:
>
> > Hi folks. Lo
Ho Daniel,
Thanks for taking the time to write here.
The preferred method is to log an issue in Jira at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/htrace
You can then work on a patch(ES) and attach it there or alternatively
create a pull request In a new branch against the Github mirror at
https://gith
Hi Folks,
Looks like I may finally get around to HTracin' Nutch :)
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NUTCH-2005
Will keep the list updated.
Thanks
Lewis
--
*Lewis*
the source tarball. Do you guys think it's worth spinning a
> new RC for this?
>
> -Abe
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> > I ran DRAT over the codebase
> >
> >
Hi Folks,
I ran DRAT over the codebase
Notes Binaries Archives Standards Apache Generated Unknown 0 0 0 120 83 0
28
28 unknown licenses flagged up
Upon further investigation these were
Unapproved licenses:
/usr/local/drat/deploy/data/jobs/rat/1430960456935/input/backbone-1.1.2.js
/usr/
Ack
On Thursday, April 30, 2015, Abraham Elmahrek wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I've already started a thread for RC1. Let's close this thread and verify
> RC1 instead.
>
> Thanks to every one for voting!
>
> -Abe
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Lewis John
Hey Abe,
Grand job.
Can you possibly close off old RC #1 thread if you are not happy with it.
I am very very happy to review this RC tomorrow.
Apologies if you already closed off and I missed it.
Grand job.
Lewis
On Thursday, April 30, 2015, Abraham Elmahrek wrote:
> I've the second release cand
Good catch Billie
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#check-list
This is going to be a problem
On Thursday, April 30, 2015, Billie Rinaldi wrote:
> There are some compiled class files in the src tarball in the
> htrace-htraced/bin directory. That's the only issue I can s
Hi Colin,
My understanding is that none of this is yet established on builds.a.o is
this correct?
https://builds.apache.org/view/H-L/view/HBase/
Maybe it would be a nice opportunity to get that sorted out as well.
Lewis
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Colin P. McCabe
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Based
Ayola,
Did you apply to GSoC with this?
The submissions window is now closed!
Lewis
On Wednesday, April 22, 2015, Ayola Jayamaha wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm a University Student applying for the GSOC Project [1] Dashboard for
> tracing information in Phoenix. In Apache Phoenix, HTrace is used to
>
Sorry I didn't make it folks.
Thank you for notes.
Anyone apart from Colin going to ApachCon? I would really like to hook up
and get drunk and talk grace, etc.
I'll be in Austin Sunday, Monday, Tuesday leaving Tuesday night.
Chris Mattmann and myself are hosting the science and healthcare track. So
I've got it. My calendar and will try to make it folks
On Friday, April 3, 2015, Billie Rinaldi wrote:
> I was hoping to drop by the call to talk with everyone, but I forgot today
> is a holiday. =) I look forward to attending a future chat.
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Colin McCabe >
I'll try my best to be there as well folks. I've got it in my calendar and
will make best efforts to be online. Thanks
On Friday, March 27, 2015, Colin McCabe wrote:
> Great. 4/3 at 5PM PDT sounds like the time, then. Lewis, does that
> work for you?
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Masata
I would be super interested in joining.
I'll look out for something more concrete.
On Thursday, March 26, 2015, wrote:
> Next Friday ought to be fine
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent by Outlook for Android
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:50 PM -0700, >
> wrote:
> Unavailable Tuesday. Have another e
Afternoon,
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Stack wrote:
> ...or not use the wiki at all but add the setup
> instruction as a site page (I prefer the latter; wiki rots... doc rots too
> but there is more obligation to keep it current).
>
>
> +1 I agree
me, but it's better than nothing...
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney
> wrote:
> > This is dynamite and I think it would be very helpful to have it linked
> to
> > from the website.
> > Although the install and config doesn't appear too b
Hi Abraham,
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Abraham Elmahrek wrote:
> Lewis,
>
> Thought I'd add my two cents as well :).
>
Thanks
>
> As Colin stated, we're working on presenting a graph for visualizing the
> parent/child relationships. We're going to continue refining the search
> page and
This is dynamite and I think it would be very helpful to have it linked to
from the website.
Although the install and config doesn't appear too bulky, there are a
number of steps and this would be non trivial for someone who is not
familiarized with Hadoop xml based runtime configuration.
I'm finis
ht now... let me file a JIRA for
> that :P This is a very new feature, got added earlier this week.
>
> The web UI is a great place to get involved right now... there is a
> lot of work going on there and we've been adding new contributors.
>
> Colin
>
> On Thu, Feb 26,
Hi Nick,
Grand. Thank you
What is visualization looking like right now? It there currently a
mechanism for visualizing HTrace structures?
Is it worth considering posting something like this as a GSoC project is
one does not currently exist?
Thanks
Lewis
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Nick Dim
Hi Folks,
Right now we are able to initiate TRACE within Log4j file in Nutch 2.X [0].
Nutch 2.X offer storage abstraction for storage of Webpage and Host data
through use of Apache Gora.
Gora backend support includes
- Apache Avro 1.7.6
- Apache Hadoop 1.2.1 and 2.5.2
- Apache HBase 0.98.
lease: 2015-20-01 htrace-3.1.0-incubatingWhen were the last
committers or PMC members elected?Abraham Elmahrek was elected to
become an HTrace committer onWed, 11 Feb, 2-15.Signed-off-by: [
](htrace) Jake Farrell [ ](htrace) Todd Lipcon [X](htrace) Lewis
John Mcgibbney [ ](htrace) Andrew Pu
Hi Folks,
As a mentor I would like to post messages to the private@ list. This
regards PPMC only.
If someone could add me it would be appreciated.
Thank you
Lewis
--
*Lewis*
Hi Colin,
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Colin McCabe
wrote:
> Thanks for putting this together, Lewis! It looks good.
>
> The only thing I would change is that while the current text says "the
> community appears not to have developed much with regards to
> attracting new community members
Hi Folks,
Please see our entry in the Incubator reporting page.
I flushed out some of my observations and options. Please change at will if
you do not agree.
Thanks
Lewis
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> Greetings, {podling} developers,
>
> The "marvin" automated report
issues for the next release
>
> -Jake
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If we can clarify if the issues are NOT blocking this RC progressing
> then I
> > am more than happy to vreview folks.
>
If we can clarify if the issues are NOT blocking this RC progressing then I
am more than happy to vreview folks.
Please let me know, I was in the process of reviewing until this email came
in... and quite right too! Good catches and excellent points.
Thanks
lewis
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Ni
the mail
> archive with the request.
>
> From my point of view, no such technical issue was in this case.
> Considering the major mentor issues being raised on the general list, I'd
> prefer to not see this. Mentors signing off on the report are very
> important
ck"
> The incubator expects that all mentors sign off on the report, but you
> shouldn't wait for the mentors OK to post it to the wiki.
> Please also hold your mentors accountable to sign off on the report.
>
> I plan to remove the mentor checks from the incubator
Good job
On Monday, January 5, 2015, Stack wrote:
> Thank you Lewis.
>
> With oks from three mentors and Nick, let me post this to the wiki. If any
> more comments, no problem, I'll edit them in.
>
> Thanks,
> St.Ack
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Lewis
ache Flume was contributed.
> * We have put up 5 release candidates for our 1st podling release with a
> 6th on its way.
>
> Date of last release:
>
> None as yet.
>
> When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
>
> None since initial setup.
>
> Si
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Jake Farrell wrote:
> just need to make
> sure that its documented so any committer can update the site easily
>
> ACK
CMS ROCKS
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Stack wrote:
> How should we do the website? Jake set up the svnpubsub for us so we'd
> generate the static site and then publish it only, we have no 'website'
> currently.
>
> I could do a little fixup and then generate the site with 'mvn site'.
> Tha
Hi Folks,
+0 on keeping versioning going >3.1.X or 3.2
I'll get more involved as the weeks go on.
Have a great weekend folks
Lewis
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Nick Dimiduk wrote:
> I think going backwards to 1.0 would be confusing for any existing users.
> Maybe make the -incubating releases
Fantastic Jake.
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Jake Farrell wrote:
> The git repo has been brought over at commit 22c4fa. i'll start setting up
> the mirrors and github integrations shortly. Can someone please update the
> README on the Cloudera HTrace repo to say the project has moved to the
Hi Michael,
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Stack wrote:
> So, we are almost past the 72 hours needed for the lazy consensus on our
> IP CLEARANCE email up on general@incubator
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201412.mbox/%3CCADcMMgFEWeSS9PdaNh94ahgZaW%2BrtK19EX4rNqS
gt; was planning on doing just that
>>>
>>> -Jake
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
>>> lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Board meeting is today. Might be a good opportunity to jump
Ack
On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Jake Farrell wrote:
> Hey Lewis
> Thinking along the same lines, I sit in on all the board meetings and was
> planning on doing just that
>
> -Jake
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney <
> lewis.mcgibb...@gmai
Board meeting is today. Might be a good opportunity to jump on to IRC and
nudge?
On Tuesday, November 18, 2014, Stack wrote:
> I checked the secretary's mailbox and see my mail on software grant in
> there (and my follow-up). Secretary is busy?
> St.Ack
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Jake
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