Re: Apache 3.0

2008-04-13 Thread Paul Querna
Jorge Schrauwen wrote: Although dropping back to waka/http is an other options but I think some users will be dissapointed. Why run 4 different daemons while one will do? (ok I can think of a lot of reasons but I can think of some no to do it either.) Because then you'll be like inetd,

Public APIs in Modules

2008-04-13 Thread Paul Querna
Ruediger Pluem wrote: . Once I move mod_request.h from includes to modules/filters it all works fine (after make extraclean; buildconf of course). The reason is that the generator for exports.c picks up the symbols from mod_request.h which is IMHO wrong as it is not statically compiled into

Re: Apache 3.0

2008-04-13 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Apr 12, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Paul Querna wrote: For those who were not there, slides from Roy's keynote at ApacheCon EU: http://roy.gbiv.com/talks/200804_Apache3_ApacheCon.pdf heh, good thing I managed to get the Internet connection to work long enough for the upload. The only reply I

Re: [PROPOSAL] Time Based Releases

2008-04-13 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Apr 12, 2008, at 7:20 PM, Paul Querna wrote: This is something I have been thinking about for awhile, and discussed with a few other http server people before. I think that for the 'stable' branch, we should move to time based releases. My proposal is for every 2 months, we do a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Time Based Releases

2008-04-13 Thread Paul Querna
Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Apr 12, 2008, at 7:20 PM, Paul Querna wrote: This is something I have been thinking about for awhile, and discussed with a few other http server people before. I think that for the 'stable' branch, we should move to time based releases. My proposal is for every 2

Re: Apache 3.0

2008-04-13 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
Just out of curiosity... will 3.0 still be a fresh start or will the core of 2.3 be used? On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Roy T. Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 12, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Paul Querna wrote: For those who were not there, slides from Roy's keynote at ApacheCon EU:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Time Based Releases

2008-04-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Ruediger Pluem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My proposal is for every 2 months, we do a release of the main stable branch, which at this time is 2.2.x. I would like to go for 3 month, so four times per year or once each quarter. I think it's a good idea -

Re: [PROPOSAL] Time Based Releases

2008-04-13 Thread Lars Eilebrecht
According to Paul: My proposal is for every 2 months, we do a release of the main stable branch, which at this time is 2.2.x. +1 on the concept, but in my opinion 2 month is too short. 3-4 month would be better. ciao... -- Lars Eilebrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Apache 3.0

2008-04-13 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Jorge Schrauwen wrote: Just out of curiosity... will 3.0 still be a fresh start or will the core of 2.3 be used? My slides are intended to be motivational, not definitional. The only thing known about 3.0 is that it won't be compatible with 2.x. Other than that

Re: [PROPOSAL] Time Based Releases

2008-04-13 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Apr 13, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Lars Eilebrecht wrote: According to Paul: My proposal is for every 2 months, we do a release of the main stable branch, which at this time is 2.2.x. +1 on the concept, but in my opinion 2 month is too short. 3-4 month would be better. If two months is too

Re: [PROPOSAL] Time Based Releases

2008-04-13 Thread Niklas Edmundsson
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008, Paul Querna wrote: This is something I have been thinking about for awhile, and discussed with a few other http server people before. I think that for the 'stable' branch, we should move to time based releases. Sounds sane. Even though there might only be small bugfixes

Re: Apache 3.0

2008-04-13 Thread Sander Temme
On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Jorge Schrauwen wrote: Just out of curiosity... will 3.0 still be a fresh start or will the core of 2.3 be used? Well, the existing code is a server framework that runs millions of websites and has received a lot of battle-testing. I don't see us not taking

Re: Apache 3.0

2008-04-13 Thread Ian Holsman
Paul Querna wrote: For those who were not there, slides from Roy's keynote at ApacheCon EU: http://roy.gbiv.com/talks/200804_Apache3_ApacheCon.pdf I've got a couple of naive questions about 3. My apologies.. but i'm only looking at the slides, not the speech itself. What will the role of