Re: setting up testing

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Felt
I have seen the name apxs many times in the past, t/TEST -help names an -apxs location of apxs (default is from Apache2::BuildConfig) Currently I have a partition (actually a WPAR) that only has perl updated via cpan and Apache-Test loaded. Since I wont be starting the httpd local

Re: setting up testing

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Felt
Seems to have worked, and only a minor error/warning (I hope) - twice... Manifying blib/man3/Apache::TestHandler.3 lib/Apache/TestHandler.pm:106: Unknown command paragraph "=encoding utf8" So, I expect I'll still have to load more stuff from CPAN, once I find the start button... On Fri, Mar 2, 20

Re: setting up testing

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Felt
In other words, I needed to look lower at: so I should be using: "svn checkout" https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/perl/Apache-Test/trunk Apache-Test Thanks On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Jeff Trawick wrote: > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Michael Felt wrote: > > trying: > > # svnkit-1.3.7/b

Re: Technical reasons for -1 votes (?)

2012-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/1/2012 4:17 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:20 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > >> Or rather, had we not exported a single symbol, then the veto was >> unjustified? > > I don't remember the details, but it was presented by you as a new API. > It was described by you as the

Re: IP Clearance? NAK

2012-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/1/2012 9:08 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > Why don't you stop with your passive-aggressive bullshit, and read the > thread over on legal-discuss where we talked about fixing the "short > form" IP Clearance process. The IP policies have not changed, but they > *should*, along the lines Roy suggests

Re: IP Clearance? NAK

2012-03-01 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 20:52, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 3/1/2012 4:17 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >> On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:20 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >> >>> Perhaps you are signing up to do that ip-clearance, since it doesn't >>> seem to be coming from the committer. >> >> IP clearance

IP Clearance? NAK

2012-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/1/2012 4:17 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:20 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > >> Perhaps you are signing up to do that ip-clearance, since it doesn't >> seem to be coming from the committer. > > IP clearance for an existing committer is BULLSHIT. I already cleared > that

Re: setting up testing

2012-03-01 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Michael Felt wrote: > trying: > # svnkit-1.3.7/bin/jsvn checkout > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/httpd/test/framework/trunk test > > get: > svn: Repository moved permanently to '/viewvc/httpd/test/framework/trunk'; > please relocate > svn: OPTIONS request failed on '

Re: setting up testing

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Felt
trying: # svnkit-1.3.7/bin/jsvn checkout http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/httpd/test/framework/trunk test get: svn: Repository moved permanently to '/viewvc/httpd/test/framework/trunk'; please relocate svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/viewvc/httpd/test/framework/trunk' Explanation please. On Thu, Ma

Re: [RE-VOTE] adoption of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Felt
I learned something tonight :) On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 16:30, Rich Bowen wrote: > >... > > I've often thought that modules like, say, mod_ftp, would have a much > > greater chance of being successful if they were in trunk rather than it > > be

Re: [RE-VOTE] adoption of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 16:30, Rich Bowen wrote: >... > I've often thought that modules like, say, mod_ftp, would have a much > greater chance of being successful if they were in trunk rather than it > being several additional steps to obtain. > > I'm +1 to having this in trunk, but am voting based

Re: Technical reasons for -1 votes (?)

2012-03-01 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Mar 1, 2012, at 12:28 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 3/1/2012 1:58 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> >> On Mar 1, 2012, at 1:25 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >> >>> On 2/29/2012 6:25 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: Yes, but they are modules. Hence, their mere existence in our tree

Re: Technical reasons for -1 votes (?)

2012-03-01 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Mar 1, 2012, at 9:20 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 2/29/2012 6:25 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >> On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:42 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >>> >>> Let's take Roy's position on the attached vote discussion, it's relevant. >>> These new modules are certainly additions/deletion

Re: Win VC10 project files convert

2012-03-01 Thread Gregg Smith
On 2/26/2012 10:11 AM, Steffen wrote: When I recall on the list is stated that .dsw and .dsp files cannot directly be used by VC10, so we should drop them. Correct me if I have read/understood wrong. I will not state that the Express version doesn't, because by the time it came out, I had bee

Re: [RE-VOTE] adoption of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread Rich Bowen
On Mar 1, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > Modules do not have to be tested *before* they appear in trunk. That's > putting the cart before the horse. Part of the development process > (while in trunk) is doing the testing portion. And hey... if it never > gets tested, then it gets marked as

Re: [RE-VOTE] adoption of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/1/2012 3:02 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > Modules do not have to be tested *before* they appear in trunk. That's > putting the cart before the horse. Part of the development process > (while in trunk) is doing the testing portion. And hey... if it never > gets tested, then it gets marked as "experim

Re: [RE-VOTE] adoption of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread Greg Stein
Modules do not have to be tested *before* they appear in trunk. That's putting the cart before the horse. Part of the development process (while in trunk) is doing the testing portion. And hey... if it never gets tested, then it gets marked as "experimental" and we all move on. Cheers, -g On Thu,

Re: setting up testing

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Felt
yes you have, and I lost the info ... will start the search now... first on linux: assumes you have a linux box ready and waiting, which i dont. However, in 20 minutes I can have a new clean AIX sandbox - so I'll suffer through a bit. CPAN works very well is my memory of it. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 a

Re: setting up testing

2012-03-01 Thread Eric Covener
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Michael Felt wrote: > perl with -MCPAN I used to use a lot, getting svn - personal build via a > personal build is a different story. Guess I'll have to hunt down a package > of RPM's for now and solve the core dump problem (in sqlite3 I have found at > least). Macr

Re: Technical reasons for -1 votes (?)

2012-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/1/2012 1:58 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 1:25 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > >> On 2/29/2012 6:25 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >>> >>> Yes, but they are modules. Hence, their mere existence in our tree >>> is not a technical reason to exclude them. We have a modular arch

Re: setting up testing

2012-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/1/2012 2:17 PM, Michael Felt wrote: > One quick question: can I assume that the test is ideally in a different > machine than the > httpd system being tested, or do the tests assume localhost? You can do either, see t/TEST --help

Re: TESTING of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/1/2012 2:05 PM, Michael Felt wrote: > Seems dangerous to even comment in this flow - but as I am all about thinking > "testing" at > the moment - is there any thought about how to test this. From a packaging > point of view I > would expect tooling to be able to test are "included" functions

Re: setting up testing

2012-03-01 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Michael Felt wrote: > One quick question: can I assume that the test is ideally in a different > machine than the httpd system being tested, or do the tests assume > localhost? To be honest I haven't looked, but I suspect it is local host only... Once you have the

Re: setting up testing

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Felt
One quick question: can I assume that the test is ideally in a different machine than the httpd system being tested, or do the tests assume localhost? On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Michael Felt wrote: > Want to get started on this. I read the links from > http://httpd.apache.org/test/ and thin

Re: setting up testing

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Felt
perl with -MCPAN I used to use a lot, getting svn - personal build via a personal build is a different story. Guess I'll have to hunt down a package of RPM's for now and solve the core dump problem (in sqlite3 I have found at least). Macros are nice for coding, but less nice when working through db

Re: [RE-VOTE] adoption of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread Michael Felt
Seems dangerous to even comment in this flow - but as I am all about thinking "testing" at the moment - is there any thought about how to test this. From a packaging point of view I would expect tooling to be able to test are "included" functions. As a user I would expect anything in trunk (what I

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2012-03-01 Thread sorin.manolache
Hello, I would need a memory buffer associated per worker thread (in the worker MPM) or to each process (in the prefork MPM). In order to do that, I would need a map thread<->buffer. So, I would need a sort of thread ID/key/handle that stays the same during the lifetime of the thread and no tw

Re: setting up testing

2012-03-01 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Michael Felt wrote: > Want to get started on this. I read the links from > http://httpd.apache.org/test/ and think I understand the flood subproject. > From reading the forums here recently I get the impression that more than > flood is being used, or even something

Re: Technical reasons for -1 votes (?)

2012-03-01 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Mar 1, 2012, at 1:25 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 2/29/2012 6:25 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >> >> Yes, but they are modules. Hence, their mere existence in our tree >> is not a technical reason to exclude them. We have a modular architecture >> so that people who don't want a module

Re: [RE-VOTE] adoption of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread Greg Stein
On Mar 1, 2012 1:29 PM, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 1:11 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > > > Let's simply reset this whole mess. > > > > A proposal to adopt mod_firehose is attached. > > > > [X] Option 1: adopt as trunk module > > [ ] Option 2: adopt only as subproject > >

Re: [RE-VOTE] adoption of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/1/2012 12:40 PM, Sander Temme wrote: > > Dimpled chad: I would support option 2 if 1 doesn't have traction. Yup - that's implicit.

Re: [RE-VOTE] adoption of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread Sander Temme
On Mar 1, 2012, at 10:11 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > Let's simply reset this whole mess. > > A proposal to adopt mod_firehose is attached. > > [X] Option 1: adopt as trunk module > [ ] Option 2: adopt only as subproject > [ ] Option 3: do not adopt Dimpled chad: I would support option

Re: [RE-VOTE] adoption of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Mar 1, 2012, at 1:11 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > Let's simply reset this whole mess. > > A proposal to adopt mod_firehose is attached. > > [X] Option 1: adopt as trunk module > [ ] Option 2: adopt only as subproject > [ ] Option 3: do not adopt >

Re: Technical reasons for -1 votes (?)

2012-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/29/2012 6:25 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > Yes, but they are modules. Hence, their mere existence in our tree > is not a technical reason to exclude them. We have a modular architecture > so that people who don't want a module don't have to build it. Which explains mod_macro how, exactly?

Re: [RE-VOTE] adoption of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/1/2012 12:11 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > > A proposal to adopt mod_firehose is attached. > > [ ] Option 1: adopt as trunk module > [X] Option 2: adopt only as subproject > [ ] Option 3: do not adopt

[RE-VOTE] adoption of mod_firehose MODULE

2012-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
Let's simply reset this whole mess. A proposal to adopt mod_firehose is attached. [ ] Option 1: adopt as trunk module [ ] Option 2: adopt only as subproject [ ] Option 3: do not adopt [Prior to this vote, option 2 had previously passed with minfrin, issac, sctemme, jim in support. Subs

Re: Technical reasons for -1 votes (?)

2012-03-01 Thread Greg Stein
On Mar 1, 2012 12:20 PM, "William A. Rowe Jr." wrote: >... > If there are two other committers who will vote with Jim for this > project to accept one or more of these modules into trunk (rather than > subproject), and someone will finish the ip-clearance, I'm great with > that. If none of that h

Re: Technical reasons for -1 votes (?)

2012-03-01 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/29/2012 6:25 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:42 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >> >> Let's take Roy's position on the attached vote discussion, it's relevant. >> These new modules are certainly additions/deletions to httpd. > > Yes, but they are modules. Hence, their mere

Re: Still #ifdef WIN64 in APR

2012-03-01 Thread Steffen
Anindya supplies already some time a build with the change, as far as I know, no issues reported. -Original Message- From: Jeff Trawick Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:30 PM Newsgroups: gmane.comp.apache.devel To: dev@httpd.apache.org ; APR Developer List Subject: Re: Still #ifdef WIN

Re: Still #ifdef WIN64 in APR

2012-03-01 Thread Eric Covener
> Does this work for you? > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1295535 > > (I'll move the fix back to 1.5 and 1.4 branches and retarget the bug to apr.) Looks right here given the report and stackoverflow post.

Re: Still #ifdef WIN64 in APR

2012-03-01 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Steffen wrote: > In APR 1.4.6 there is still a typo in the statements, causes crashes HTTPD > in eg. setting on logging in mod_rewrite. > > In shm.c and apr.hw > > #ifdef WIN64 > > Sould be: > > #ifdef _WIN64 > > > > Steffen Does this work for you? http://svn.apac

Re: [RFC] try to solidify feature adoption criteria

2012-03-01 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jeff Trawick wrote: > New features are a natural part of the software life-cycle, but they One obvious alternative is to simply document that new features of any magnitude can be added to trunk at will by any committer. Presence in a stable branch is subject to

Still #ifdef WIN64 in APR

2012-03-01 Thread Steffen
In APR 1.4.6 there is still a typo in the statements, causes crashes HTTPD in eg. setting on logging in mod_rewrite. In shm.c and apr.hw #ifdef WIN64 Sould be: #ifdef _WIN64 Steffen