Re: breach attack

2013-08-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.08.2013 21:28, schrieb Stefan Fritsch: > Am Freitag, 9. August 2013, 22:04:22 schrieb Joe Orton: >> On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 09:14:51AM -0700, Paul Querna wrote: >>> In this case, I don't know if any of the proposed mitigations >>> help; >>> I'd love to have an easy way to validate that, so

Re: breach attack

2013-08-10 Thread Stefan Fritsch
Am Freitag, 9. August 2013, 22:04:22 schrieb Joe Orton: > On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 09:14:51AM -0700, Paul Querna wrote: > > In this case, I don't know if any of the proposed mitigations > > help; > > I'd love to have an easy way to validate that, so we could bring > > data to the discussion: If it

Re: breach attack

2013-08-10 Thread Stefan Fritsch
Am Samstag, 10. August 2013, 18:11:09 schrieb Dirk-Willem van Gulik: > So the only fundamental thing we can do (i.e. if we want to go > beyond guessing (future) browser and developer introduced > vulnerabilities at higher layers) is a wee bit of > padding/random*-cruft insertion in key places. Perh

Re: Fixing UDS in trunk/2.4 proposal

2013-08-10 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > +1... By the way, I'm working on a minor patch that works around > that "stupid" encoding of '/' requirement... > Did you give any thought to bypassing the normal proxy parsing altogether? For mod_authnz_fcgi I started by using a copy of

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping the E-word from mod_lua (SFW)

2013-08-10 Thread André Malo
* Jeff Trawick wrote: > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > > > I'd like to change the note to something along these lines: > > > > mod_lua is in a state of continuous development. Usage > > and behavior is subject to change at any time, even between stable > > releases o

Re: breach attack

2013-08-10 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 10 Aug 2013, at 18:14, "Steinar H. Gunderson" wrote: > On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 06:11:09PM +0200, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: >> I'd keep in mind that compression is simply an amplifier for this type of >> attack. It makes the approach more effective. But it is not essential; when >> you have

Re: breach attack

2013-08-10 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 06:11:09PM +0200, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > I'd keep in mind that compression is simply an amplifier for this type of > attack. It makes the approach more effective. But it is not essential; when > you have in essence a largely known plaintext surrounding a short secret

Re: breach attack

2013-08-10 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 10 Aug 2013, at 00:37, Eric Covener wrote: > On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Steinar H. Gunderson > wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 01:32:00PM -0400, Eric Covener wrote: >>> Another option in this neighborhood is small/varying deflate blocks. >>> But that probably limits the usefulness of

Re: Fixing UDS in trunk/2.4 proposal

2013-08-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1... By the way, I'm working on a minor patch that works around that "stupid" encoding of '/' requirement... On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 03:51:20PM -0500, Daniel Ruggeri wrote: > So I'm tasked with making httpd hold its own weight better against nginx > as a reverse proxy to a local service. Unfortun

Re: [DISCUSS] Dropping the E-word from mod_lua (SFW)

2013-08-10 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Hi dev@, > Though this is mainly a question for docs@, I thought I'd drop this > email into the dev@ list instead, since this is where I think > objections, if there are any, will arise. > > Today, on various Internet channels, I have had to d