Re: Fwd: [PROPOSAL-VOTE] Adopt lazy consensus for backports...

2004-11-18 Thread Brad Nicholes
Taking a snapshot look at the STATUS file at any given point in time does not show the actual problem. The problem is the delay in getting from point A (submitting a proposal) to point B (approval for backport). For a hot issue with many interested parties (who actually hold voting rights), ge

Re: Fwd: [PROPOSAL-VOTE] Adopt lazy consensus for backports...

2004-11-17 Thread Glenn Strauss
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 10:45:14PM +, Matthieu Estrade wrote: [...] > I think 2.1 is not public enough > Actually, i think people don't take time to use cvs + cvs on apr and > apr-util, or don't take time to find snapshot to use 2.1. They also > don't telnet apache.org to look what we are run

Re: Fwd: [PROPOSAL-VOTE] Adopt lazy consensus for backports...

2004-11-17 Thread Matthieu Estrade
IMHO, I am not sure we need lazy backport on stable 2.0. Lazy backport on 2.0 make it less stable, working for 2.1 is not really exciting because nobody or really few people use it. The new auth layer in 2.1 is better than 2.0, inside 2.1 for a long time now, but not popular as it should be. I t

Re: Fwd: [PROPOSAL-VOTE] Adopt lazy consensus for backports...

2004-11-17 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 19:42:08 +, Joe Orton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 06:10:17PM -0700, Brad Nicholes wrote: > > > >During ApacheCon several httpd PMC members got together to discuss > > current issues with the httpd project and to try to find better ways > > to m

Re: Fwd: [PROPOSAL-VOTE] Adopt lazy consensus for backports...

2004-11-17 Thread Joe Orton
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 06:10:17PM -0700, Brad Nicholes wrote: >During ApacheCon several httpd PMC members got together to discuss > current issues with the httpd project and to try to find better ways > to manage the project. One of the issues that was discussed heavily > was the current poli

Fwd: [PROPOSAL-VOTE] Adopt lazy consensus for backports...

2004-11-16 Thread Brad Nicholes
moving to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:08:20 PM >>> During ApacheCon several httpd PMC members got together to discuss current issues with the httpd project and to try to find better ways to manage the project. One of the issues that was discussed he