Re: Thoughts on future of the Java ecosystem

2018-02-27 Thread Andreas Huber
Hi Dan, hope everything is fine on your end! 4 months have passed and I'd like to refresh this vision. == Currently we have following containers, that we could/should support: 1) Servlet Container (Tomcat, Jetty, ...) 2) CDI 1.2, JAX-RS 2.0 * Eclipse MicroProfile 1.1+ * Java EE 7 (glassfish 4,

Re: Thoughts on future of the Java ecosystem

2017-10-11 Thread Andi Huber
Dan, great summary of current vision, thanks! From my experience with Isis on payara (JEE 7) - and I mean just as a starting point - CDI and the 'home-brew' ServiceInjector can peacefully coexist. My approach: Without modifying Isis, all the DomainService/Object/View lifecycling is managed b

Re: Thoughts on future of the Java ecosystem

2017-10-11 Thread Dan Haywood
Hi Andi, Many thanks for raising this. When we've talked about this in the past in the community, the strong preference I think is exactly in the direction that you've indicated ... to make ourselves properly a JEE citizen and leverage its capabilities. In particular, we don't want to take a dep

Re: Thoughts on future of the Java ecosystem

2017-10-11 Thread Óscar Bou - GOVERTIS
I’m pretty sure it will grow, and that should be our main objective. > El 11 oct 2017, a las 13:23, Andi Huber escribió: > > Thanks Oscar, > > I believe I can see some benefits in implementing a custom solution of DI for > Apache Isis. And since it works I'm fine with it. > > Still I'm cur

Re: Thoughts on future of the Java ecosystem

2017-10-11 Thread Andi Huber
Thanks Oscar, I believe I can see some benefits in implementing a custom solution of DI for Apache Isis. And since it works I'm fine with it. Still I'm curious about what you guys think about the relevance of Java EE as a target platform. Is our community likely to grow if we support the EE

Re: Thoughts on future of the Java ecosystem

2017-10-11 Thread Óscar Bou
Hi Andy, Completely agree that we should support standards to ease adoption. Regarding Dependency Injection, Dan introduced Guice time ago and if I remember it well, he argued about the motivation to implement a custom solution (but can’t remember now why). Also I think he also mentioned that

Re: Thoughts on future of the Java ecosystem

2017-10-11 Thread Andi Huber
On 10.10.2017 14:11, Andi Huber wrote: Hi all! These are very exciting times for the Java enthusiast. As James Governor points out in his JavaOne 2017 keynotes talk: 'Things have changed in the Java ecosystem probably more in the past 3 weeks, than they have in the previous 13 years.' [1]

Thoughts on future of the Java ecosystem

2017-10-10 Thread Andi Huber
Hi all! These are very exciting times for the Java enthusiast. As James Governor points out in his JavaOne 2017 keynotes talk: 'Things have changed in the Java ecosystem probably more in the past 3 weeks, than they have in the previous 13 years.' [1] And since Java EE is going open source [