Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

2017-12-02 Thread Gilles Sadowski 
Hi.

On 2017-12-02 21:27, Rafael Weingärtner  wrote: 
> How should I handle adding apache commons?
> 
> If I add all of the sources we will go over the limit of 100 sources. In
> Github there are 72 projects, and on Jira there other 70+ projects.

A lot of projects, yes; but most of them are quite small, and many
have very low activity.
Would that mitigate usage resources?
If the number above is a hard limit, I'll ask the ML for a priority list...

> At
> least the mailing list seems to be only the ones found here:
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@commons.apache.org

The "dev" ML should rather be selected.

Gilles

> 
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Gilles Sadowski  wrote:
> 
> > Hello.
> >
> > On 2017-11-27 19:26, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > PS: Please note, we have limited capacity for these tests. We cannot
> > > have every single ASF project in the demo, and we reserve the rights to
> > > pick the projects that can participate, should we get a lot of requests.
> > >
> >
> > Would you consider adding the "Commons"[1] projects?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gilles
> >
> > [1] http://commons.apache.org/
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Rafael Weingärtner
>

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

2017-12-02 Thread Daniel Gruno 
I'll also note, that if people create their own accounts, please let us
know at the kibble project, so we can add you to the demo organisation
on the demo - otherwise you won't be able to see much :)

On 12/02/2017 12:24 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> On 12/02/2017 01:33 AM, Denis Magda wrote:
>> + Ignite dev
>>
>> Rafael,
>>
>> That’s a really useful project. I would use it for Ignite metrics analysis.
>>
>> How do you measure the pony-factor (contributors/committers breakdown per 
>> specific organization)?
> 
> You can read an article on the original pony factor math at David
> Nalley's blog; https://ke4qqq.wordpress.com/2015/02/08/pony-factor-math/
> 
>>
>> Is there a way to see user/dev list specific metrics such as most active 
>> participants (senders and responders), number of signs-up, etc.?
> 
> Yes and no, but mostly yes :)
> There are three mail-related pages you can look at (please log in before
> you proceed to the URLs below):
> 
> - The first is the basic email metrics (Data Points -> Mailing Lists),
> such as this URL for ignite:
> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/dashboard.html?page=mail=ignite
> You can zoom in on a specific user/dev list by simply changing the
> sub-filter to dev@ignite or user@ignite and clicking the green
> 'sub-filter' button.
> 
> - The second is the mail mapping, which shows you who is discussing with
> whom, at Relationships -> Discussion author maps. An example of this is:
> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/relationships.html?page=mail-map=dev@ignite
> for dev@ignite over the past (default) 6 months. It's advised that you
> zoom in on the timespan to the last month or so, to not get as cluttered
> a view.
> 
> - Finally, while Kibble doesn't have access to who subscribes or
> unsubscribes (that's infra only!), it can extrapolate activity based off
> when people send email, and approximate how many people are currently
> active as mail authors. This retention/activity chart is found under
> Engagement -> Contributor Retention, such as:
> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/engagement.html?page=retention=ignite
> 
> While we also have the fun and interesting mood mapping, it's not
> currently been done for ignite, as that costs us a bit of money each
> time we do that scan.
> 
> I hope you find something worth looking at :)
> 
> With regards,
> Daniel.
> 
>>
>> Igniters, please log in and provide your feedback. The details are below.
>>
>> —
>> Denis
>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Rafael Weingärtner 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/dashboard.html?page=repos=true=d58d1803c1337bc2762059eb4d6bd72cca53c4a3c981dcf48d1f7412
>>>  
>>> 
>>>
>>> You need to log in as guest. The username and password are presented in the 
>>> login interface.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Denis Magda >> > wrote:
>>> Rafael,
>>>
>>> Where should I go to see Ignite metrics? Tried to look for data here but 
>>> this seems to be a wrong place:
>>> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ 
>>>
>>> —
>>> Denis
>>>
 On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Rafael Weingärtner 
 > wrote:

 sure.
 You can already see Ignite status there ;)

 On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Denis Magda > wrote:
 Hi Rafael,

 Confirming that the information is correct. Please CC me in all the 
 related discussions directly.

 —
 Denis

> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:30 AM, Rafael Weingärtner 
> > wrote:
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Rafael Weingärtner  >
> Date: Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right 
> Project
> To: dev@kibble.apache.org 
>
>
> Hi Denis, 
> Can you confirm the Apache Ignite information? so I can add it
>
> GitHub repo(s):
> https://github.com/apache/ignite.git 
> 
>
> Jira:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE 
> 
>
> Mailing lists:
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@ignite.apache.org 
> 
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@ignite.apache.org 
> 
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?iss...@ignite.apache.org 
> 
>
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Denis

Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right Project

2017-12-02 Thread Daniel Gruno 
On 12/02/2017 01:33 AM, Denis Magda wrote:
> + Ignite dev
> 
> Rafael,
> 
> That’s a really useful project. I would use it for Ignite metrics analysis.
> 
> How do you measure the pony-factor (contributors/committers breakdown per 
> specific organization)?

You can read an article on the original pony factor math at David
Nalley's blog; https://ke4qqq.wordpress.com/2015/02/08/pony-factor-math/

> 
> Is there a way to see user/dev list specific metrics such as most active 
> participants (senders and responders), number of signs-up, etc.?

Yes and no, but mostly yes :)
There are three mail-related pages you can look at (please log in before
you proceed to the URLs below):

- The first is the basic email metrics (Data Points -> Mailing Lists),
such as this URL for ignite:
https://demo.kibble.apache.org/dashboard.html?page=mail=ignite
You can zoom in on a specific user/dev list by simply changing the
sub-filter to dev@ignite or user@ignite and clicking the green
'sub-filter' button.

- The second is the mail mapping, which shows you who is discussing with
whom, at Relationships -> Discussion author maps. An example of this is:
https://demo.kibble.apache.org/relationships.html?page=mail-map=dev@ignite
for dev@ignite over the past (default) 6 months. It's advised that you
zoom in on the timespan to the last month or so, to not get as cluttered
a view.

- Finally, while Kibble doesn't have access to who subscribes or
unsubscribes (that's infra only!), it can extrapolate activity based off
when people send email, and approximate how many people are currently
active as mail authors. This retention/activity chart is found under
Engagement -> Contributor Retention, such as:
https://demo.kibble.apache.org/engagement.html?page=retention=ignite

While we also have the fun and interesting mood mapping, it's not
currently been done for ignite, as that costs us a bit of money each
time we do that scan.

I hope you find something worth looking at :)

With regards,
Daniel.

> 
> Igniters, please log in and provide your feedback. The details are below.
> 
> —
> Denis
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Rafael Weingärtner 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/dashboard.html?page=repos=true=d58d1803c1337bc2762059eb4d6bd72cca53c4a3c981dcf48d1f7412
>>  
>> 
>>
>> You need to log in as guest. The username and password are presented in the 
>> login interface.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Denis Magda > > wrote:
>> Rafael,
>>
>> Where should I go to see Ignite metrics? Tried to look for data here but 
>> this seems to be a wrong place:
>> https://demo.kibble.apache.org/ 
>>
>> —
>> Denis
>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Rafael Weingärtner 
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> sure.
>>> You can already see Ignite status there ;)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Denis Magda >> > wrote:
>>> Hi Rafael,
>>>
>>> Confirming that the information is correct. Please CC me in all the related 
>>> discussions directly.
>>>
>>> —
>>> Denis
>>>
 On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:30 AM, Rafael Weingärtner 
 > wrote:


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Rafael Weingärtner >
 Date: Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 11:29 AM
 Subject: Re: Request for Participation: The Right Metrics for the Right 
 Project
 To: dev@kibble.apache.org 


 Hi Denis, 
 Can you confirm the Apache Ignite information? so I can add it

 GitHub repo(s):
 https://github.com/apache/ignite.git 

 Jira:
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE 
 

 Mailing lists:
 https://lists.apache.org/list.html?u...@ignite.apache.org 
 
 https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@ignite.apache.org 
 
 https://lists.apache.org/list.html?iss...@ignite.apache.org 
 

 On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Denis Magda > wrote:
 Hi Daniel,

 Is there an easy way to hook Kibble with Ignite? We’re definitely 
 interested in such capabilities.

 —
 Denis

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Daniel Gruno  > wrote:
>
> Hi there, fellow Apache projects!
>
> The Apache