> > > > > > > > > I agree that Knox must continue its support for direct
> > > topology
> > > > > > (XML)
> > > > > > > > > > definitions, but for those deployments where there is a
> > > service
> > > > > > > > registry
> > > > > > > > > > (e.g., Ambari, Zookeeper, Consul, etc...) with knowledge
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > > > topology,
> > > > > > > > > > the simplified config coupled with the service discovery
> > > could
> > > > > > reduce
> > > > > > > > > > topology (especially ServiceConnectivity) errors.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I also agree that consolidating provider configurations
> > into
> > > > > named
> > > > > > > > sets,
> > > > > > > > > > which can be referenced from topology configurations,
> will
> > > be a
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > change, especially if there are commonly grouped
> providers
> > > > > employed
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > multiple topologies.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Concerning the TODO sections, is your intention is that
> > they
> > > > > > contain
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > respective API facilities that will provide the
> information
> > > > > needed
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > populate a topology definition?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > - Phil
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:39 PM, larry mccay <
> > > > lmc...@apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > All -
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have published an initial stab at a proposal for
> > > > simplifying
> > > > > > > > topology
> > > > > > > > > > > management [1] - as I briefly mentioned on the 0.14.0
> > > > planning
> > > > > > > > thread.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > There are a couple TODO sections that need some
> > > investigation
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > Ambari
> > > > > > > > > > > API and Zookeeper Registry API as discovery plugins.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Please give the KIP a read and let me know if it makes
> > > sense
> > > > or
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > would like to take on specific pieces of this work. If
> > you
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > add other options or ideas, etc.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I think that this will have a huge impact as usability
> > > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > management of the gateway!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --larry
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1.
> > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/
> confluence/display/KNOX/KIP-8+
> > > > > > > > > > > Service+Discovery+and+Topology+Generation
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
with the service discovery
> > could
> > > > > reduce
> > > > > > > > > topology (especially ServiceConnectivity) errors.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I also agree that consolidating provider configurations
> into
> > > > named
> > > > > > > sets,
> > > > > > > > > which can be referenced from topology configurations, will
> > be a
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > change, especially if there are commonly grouped providers
> > > > employed
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > multiple topologies.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Concerning the TODO sections, is your intention is that
> they
> > > > > contain
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > respective API facilities that will provide the information
> > > > needed
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > populate a topology definition?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Phil
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:39 PM, larry mccay <
> > > lmc...@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > All -
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have published an initial stab at a proposal for
> > > simplifying
> > > > > > > topology
> > > > > > > > > > management [1] - as I briefly mentioned on the 0.14.0
> > > planning
> > > > > > > thread.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There are a couple TODO sections that need some
> > investigation
> > > > for
> > > > > > > > Ambari
> > > > > > > > > > API and Zookeeper Registry API as discovery plugins.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please give the KIP a read and let me know if it makes
> > sense
> > > or
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > would like to take on specific pieces of this work. If
> you
> > > > would
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > add other options or ideas, etc.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think that this will have a huge impact as usability
> > > > > improvements
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > management of the gateway!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --larry
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1.
> > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KNOX/KIP-8+
> > > > > > > > > > Service+Discovery+and+Topology+Generation
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> > > sets,
> > > > > > > > which can be referenced from topology configurations, will
> be a
> > > > good
> > > > > > > > change, especially if there are commonly grouped providers
> > > employed
> > > > > by
> > > > > > > > multiple topologies.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Concerning the TODO sections, is your intention is that they
> > > > contain
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > respective API facilities that will provide the information
> > > needed
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > populate a topology definition?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Phil
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:39 PM, larry mccay <
> > lmc...@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > All -
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have published an initial stab at a proposal for
> > simplifying
> > > > > > topology
> > > > > > > > > management [1] - as I briefly mentioned on the 0.14.0
> > planning
> > > > > > thread.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There are a couple TODO sections that need some
> investigation
> > > for
> > > > > > > Ambari
> > > > > > > > > API and Zookeeper Registry API as discovery plugins.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please give the KIP a read and let me know if it makes
> sense
> > or
> > > > if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > would like to take on specific pieces of this work. If you
> > > would
> > > > > like
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > add other options or ideas, etc.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think that this will have a huge impact as usability
> > > > improvements
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > management of the gateway!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --larry
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1.
> > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KNOX/KIP-8+
> > > > > > > > > Service+Discovery+and+Topology+Generation
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
ped providers
> > employed
> > > > by
> > > > > > > multiple topologies.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Concerning the TODO sections, is your intention is that they
> > > contain
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > respective API facilities that will provide the information
> > needed
> > > to
> > > > > > > populate a topology definition?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Phil
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:39 PM, larry mccay <
> lmc...@apache.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have published an initial stab at a proposal for
> simplifying
> > > > > topology
> > > > > > > > management [1] - as I briefly mentioned on the 0.14.0
> planning
> > > > > thread.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are a couple TODO sections that need some investigation
> > for
> > > > > > Ambari
> > > > > > > > API and Zookeeper Registry API as discovery plugins.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please give the KIP a read and let me know if it makes sense
> or
> > > if
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > > would like to take on specific pieces of this work. If you
> > would
> > > > like
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > add other options or ideas, etc.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think that this will have a huge impact as usability
> > > improvements
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > management of the gateway!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --larry
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1.
> > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KNOX/KIP-8+
> > > > > > > > Service+Discovery+and+Topology+Generation
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
; > > multiple topologies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Concerning the TODO sections, is your intention is that they
> > contain
> > > > the
> > > > > > respective API facilities that will provide the information
> needed
t; On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:39 PM, larry mccay
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > All -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have published an initial stab at a proposal for simplifying
> > > topology
> > > > > > management [1] - as I briefly mentioned on the 0.14.0 planning
> > > thread.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are a couple TODO sections that need some investigation for
> > > > Ambari
> > > > > > API and Zookeeper Registry API as discovery plugins.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please give the KIP a read and let me know if it makes sense or
> if
> > > you
> > > > > > would like to take on specific pieces of this work. If you would
> > like
> > > > to
> > > > > > add other options or ideas, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think that this will have a huge impact as usability
> improvements
> > > for
> > > > > > management of the gateway!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --larry
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1.
> > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KNOX/KIP-8+
> > > > > > Service+Discovery+and+Topology+Generation
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
[1] - as I briefly mentioned on the 0.14.0 planning
> > thread.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are a couple TODO sections that need some investigation for
> > > Ambari
> > > > > API and Zookeeper Registry API as discovery plugins.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please give the KIP a read and let me know if it makes sense or if
> > you
> > > > > would like to take on specific pieces of this work. If you would
> like
> > > to
> > > > > add other options or ideas, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think that this will have a huge impact as usability improvements
> > for
> > > > > management of the gateway!
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > --larry
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.
> > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KNOX/KIP-8+
> > > > > Service+Discovery+and+Topology+Generation
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
logy
> > > > management [1] - as I briefly mentioned on the 0.14.0 planning
> thread.
> > > >
> > > > There are a couple TODO sections that need some investigation for
> > Ambari
> > > > API and Zookeeper Registry API as discovery plugins.
&
r simplifying
> topology
> > > > management [1] - as I briefly mentioned on the 0.14.0 planning
> thread.
> > > >
> > > > There are a couple TODO sections that need some investigation for
> > Ambari
> > > > API and Zookeeper Registry API as discovery plugins.
> > > >
> > > > Please give the KIP a read and let me know if it makes sense or if
> you
> > > > would like to take on specific pieces of this work. If you would like
> > to
> > > > add other options or ideas, etc.
> > > >
> > > > I think that this will have a huge impact as usability improvements
> for
> > > > management of the gateway!
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > --larry
> > > >
> > > > 1.
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KNOX/KIP-8+
> > > > Service+Discovery+and+Topology+Generation
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
s of this work. If you would like
> to
> > > add other options or ideas, etc.
> > >
> > > I think that this will have a huge impact as usability improvements
for
> > > management of the gateway!
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > --larry
> > >
> > > 1.
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KNOX/KIP-8+
> > > Service+Discovery+and+Topology+Generation
> > >
> >
>
ns.
> > >
> > > Please give the KIP a read and let me know if it makes sense or if you
> > > would like to take on specific pieces of this work. If you would like
> to
> > > add other options or ideas, etc.
> > >
> > > I think that this will have a huge impact as usability improvements for
> > > management of the gateway!
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > --larry
> > >
> > > 1.
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KNOX/KIP-8+
> > > Service+Discovery+and+Topology+Generation
> > >
> >
>
gt; would like to take on specific pieces of this work. If you would like to
> > add other options or ideas, etc.
> >
> > I think that this will have a huge impact as usability improvements for
> > management of the gateway!
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > --larry
> >
> > 1.
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KNOX/KIP-8+
> > Service+Discovery+and+Topology+Generation
> >
>
ay!
>
> thanks,
>
> --larry
>
> 1.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KNOX/KIP-8+
> Service+Discovery+and+Topology+Generation
>
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