[opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Request for bios for the ARB

2017-09-25 Thread Gasparakis, Joseph
Hi all, As discussed in the OpenContrail summit we are looking to create an Architectural Review Board in order to review submitted blueprints, which are architectural change proposals. During today's TSC call we defined the qualifications for the candidates: Qualifications for being part of

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

2017-09-25 Thread Edward Ting
Hi, As company making a SDN Controller, it makes sense to me that the Analytics and UI to be proprietary when Juniper decides to do so. IMHO OpenContrail, to Juniper/Contrail’s credit, provides a more mature UI than ODL/ONOS, that we are able to deliver a reasonably production-ready SDN

[opencontrail-dev] [TSC] [RFC] About the OpenContrail ARB

2017-09-25 Thread Gasparakis, Joseph
Hi all, As we all know we are planning to have an ARB at least for the first public release. We had a discussion in the TSC call today and it seems we came up with two options: ARB being part of TSC and ARB not being part of the TSC. Here is the compare and contrast as described in

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC WG] Transitioning to open source - PLEASE VOTE

2017-09-25 Thread Robert Raszuk
Greg, > Can you think of a candidate who can dictate architecture both to Juniper internal engineering and all other community participants? How’s your spare time now-a-days? On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Gregory Elkinbard wrote: > Harshad, > while in general I

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

2017-09-25 Thread Gregory Elkinbard
Robert V., It may be better to examine this from the eco system point of view, since building a comprehensive suite from scratch is not trivial. We have 2 ecosystems: Telco and Enterprise. Telco is moving towards an ETSi like implementation. So, lets place our bets. I am going to bet that AT

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC WG] Transitioning to open source - PLEASE VOTE

2017-09-25 Thread Harshad Nakil
All good comments. I wondered if you even tried to find a person for the job. Looks like you already zeroed in on architecture board and gave the choices accordingly. Any way my 2 cents. regards -Harshad > On Sep 25, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Gregory Elkinbard > wrote: > >

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC WG] Transitioning to open source - PLEASE VOTE

2017-09-25 Thread Gregory Elkinbard
Harshad, while in general I agree. It is simply too hard to find such. Since Linus and Vish are not applying for the job I am afraid that an attempt to impose such as system, may lead to what I experienced while Nicira led Neutron. I would not call that benign. Do you remember Bill Jolitz by

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC WG] Transitioning to open source - PLEASE VOTE

2017-09-25 Thread Gasparakis, Joseph
Hi Harshad, Although I agree with you that the Benevolent Dictator model works very well, it requires this Benevolent Dictator to be extremely knowledgeable with the code and architecture, and at the same time doing this job full time (in some cases more than just full time). We had this

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

2017-09-25 Thread Van Leeuwen, Robert
Sorry about the previous empty message. Keyboard-shortcut booboo. > To your comment on analytics it is a mistake to think of Contrail or Nuage or > Calico as detached solutions. > They are part of entire end to end network and just like it is today with WAN > routers, with DC underlay, > with