Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Gregory Elkinbard Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 11:24 AM To: Van Leeuwen, Robert; Robert Raszuk Cc: krzysztof.klimo...@codilime.com; dev@lists.opencontrail.org Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond Robert V., It may be better to examine this from the eco

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

that Robert R. is quite correct in his analysis ☺ Greg From: "Van Leeuwen, Robert" Date: Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 11:35 PM To: Gregory Elkinbard , Robert Raszuk Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" , "krzysztof.klimo...@codilime.com" Subject: Re: [opencontrail-

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Sorry about the previous empty message. Keyboard-shortcut booboo. > To your comment on analytics it is a mistake to think of Contrail or Nuage or > Calico as detached solutions. > They are part of entire end to end network and just like it is today with WAN > routers, with DC underlay, > with I

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

> To your comment on analytics it is a mistake to think of Contrail or Nuage or > Calico as detached solutions. > They are part of entire end to end network and just like it is today with WAN > routers, with DC underlay, > with Internet ASBRs in any company the analytics should be exported and

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

One of the things we need to consider is how to feed Prometheus. I am aware of the 20 screen problem. Analytics need to be there for both underlay and overlay, but point of it being integrated has been acutely explained before. It is not clear if we need to feed from agregated backend or create

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

obert Raszuk Date: 2017-09-22 16:43 To: Łukasz Łukasiewicz CC: krzysztof.klimo...@codilime.com; dev@lists.opencontrail.org Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond Łukasz, > as a network operator, when looking for moving my datacenter to > SDN solutio

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Well good thing that you are actually not an operator then :) I am happy about that too ;) > [rest of the words] I agree - with a couple "buts": - IMO it would require a new standard for existing and new solutions to follow. - You need

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Łukasz, > as a network operator, when looking for moving my datacenter to > SDN solution, I am not going to consider OpenContrail as viable > product on the market if analytics is gone. Well good thing that you are actually not an operator then :) To your comment on analytics it is a mistake to

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

z *Date: *Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:27 PM *To: *Harshad Nakil *Cc: *"krzysztof.klimo...@codilime.com" , "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" *Subject: *Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Harshad Nakil <

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

, like analytics is expected. Thanks Greg From: Dev on behalf of Łukasz Łukasiewicz Date: Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:27 PM To: Harshad Nakil Cc: "krzysztof.klimo...@codilime.com" , "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Harshad Nakil wrote: > I don’t agree with your assertion that contrail is viable product without > contrail analytics shutdown (operational status) > I am not sure if I verbalized properly what I meant - as a network operator, when looking for moving my datacente

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

outer agents. This not trivial to implement in a robust and scalable way. We intend to maintain compatibility. *From: *Valentine Sinitsyn <mailto:valentine.sinit...@gmail.com>> *Subject: **[opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond* *Date: *September 21, 2017 at

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

processes as well as the vRouter agents. This not trivial to implement in a robust and scalable way. We intend to maintain compatibility. From: Valentine Sinitsyn mailto:valentine.sinit...@gmail.com>> Subject: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond Date: September 21

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

> On Sep 21, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Łukasz Łukasiewicz > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Harshad Nakil > wrote: > 1. Contrail analytics is sigle repository of all the operational state of the > system. Think of analytics API as “show commands on the rout

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Harshad Nakil wrote: > 1. Contrail analytics is sigle repository of all the operational state of > the system. Think of analytics API as “show commands on the router” Over a > period with different requirements from customers, this design has evolved > and may hav

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

1. Contrail analytics is sigle repository of all the operational state of the system. Think of analytics API as “show commands on the router” Over a period with different requirements from customers, this design has evolved and may have become complicated. Many operators want streaming API for o

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Hi Robert, On 21.09.2017 19:13, Van Leeuwen, Robert wrote: 3. Hidden dependencies on analytics in OC AFAIK, svc-monitor relies (or used to rely) on analytics data to learn which vRouters are live and able to receive a service instance. Chances are, there are other places like t

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

> 3. Hidden dependencies on analytics in OC > >AFAIK, svc-monitor relies (or used to rely) on analytics data to learn >which vRouters are live and able to receive a service instance. Chances >are, there are other places like this in the code. If we make analytics >pluggable,

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

-boun...@lists.opencontrail.org] On Behalf Of Valentine Sinitsyn Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 5:33 AM To: dev@lists.opencontrail.org Cc: krzysztof.klimo...@codilime.com Subject: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond Hi all, On the yesterday's OpenContrail Summ

[opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Hi all, On the yesterday's OpenContrail Summit, it was announced that Juniper will move for proprietary advanced analytics and web ui in CC 5.0+. Current contrail-analytics and contrail-web-ui will remain open, yet their development will be a purely community-based effort. After having some