Re: [Dev] Mirrors vulnerability issue, Many outdated installs in the wild

2016-02-15 Thread fauno
Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli writes: > On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:42:02 + > Josh Branning wrote: > >> Thanks for telling about this. I commented out the line and it seems >> to work ok for now. > It does, after upgrading you can even put back the new default > mirrorlist since it has been updated. > >

Re: [Dev] Mirrors vulnerability issue, Many outdated installs in the wild

2016-02-15 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:42:02 + Josh Branning wrote: > Thanks for telling about this. I commented out the line and it seems > to work ok for now. It does, after upgrading you can even put back the new default mirrorlist since it has been updated. My main concerns about that issue are: -> Many

Re: [Dev] Mirrors vulnerability issue, Many outdated installs in the wild

2016-02-14 Thread Josh Branning
On 13/02/16 22:06, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: Hi, Summary: If you used the default pacman mirrorlists, your system is not up to date. http://parabolagnulinux.mirrors.linux.ro/$repo/os/$arch was the default mirror in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist Thanks for telling about this. I comment

Re: [Dev] Mirrors vulnerability issue, Many outdated installs in the wild

2016-02-14 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 23:06:38 +0100 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: > I should also do a proper bugreport. Now that parabola infrastructure is back up, I can now bugreport. Here it is: https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/933 Denis. pgpGDu4srS5Ap.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature _

Re: [Dev] Mirrors vulnerability issue, Many outdated installs in the wild

2016-02-14 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 23:06:38 +0100 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: Someone mentioned reflector to me on IRC: > usage: Reflector.py [-h] [--connection-timeout n] [--list-countries] > [--cache-timeout n] [--save ] > [--sort {score,delay,rate,age,country}] > [--

Re: [Dev] Mirrors vulnerability issue, Many outdated installs in the wild

2016-02-14 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sun, 14 Feb 2016 11:59:39 -0300 fauno wrote: > Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli writes: > > As for shorter term, we probably need to make sure the mirrorlist is > > coming from a trusted mirror that can be updated. > > > > We should of course use transports that can't be tempered with, such > > as http

Re: [Dev] Mirrors vulnerability issue, Many outdated installs in the wild

2016-02-14 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
In order for upgrades to be safe, signatures are not enough. This is because most old packages are signed with a key that is trusted by the system being updated. Even if db are signed, that stills applies. The main idea is to: -> Prevent MITM attacks. This should be done soon

Re: [Dev] Mirrors vulnerability issue, Many outdated installs in the wild

2016-02-14 Thread fauno
Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli writes: > As for shorter term, we probably need to make sure the mirrorlist is > coming from a trusted mirror that can be updated. > > We should of course use transports that can't be tempered with, such > as https or onion services it. Else a man in the middle can just > re

[Dev] Mirrors vulnerability issue, Many outdated installs in the wild

2016-02-14 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
Hi, Summary: If you used the default pacman mirrorlists, your system is not up to date. http://parabolagnulinux.mirrors.linux.ro/$repo/os/$arch was the default mirror in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist That mirror was not updated for a while, so people using the default configuration are still