Re: [Dev] FW: Tizen 3 services: use case for multi user

2014-09-22 Thread Zheng, Wu
Hi Patrick, >Please describe your design first before implementing it. Relevant are the >process and user/kernel boundaries and how different components communicate >with each other. In fact, NTB use system dbus bus to implement bt agent, it only run on a user. I just modify system dbus bus to

Re: [Dev] FW: Tizen 3 services: use case for multi user

2014-09-22 Thread Zheng, Wu
Hi Patrick, >Why would NTB need to be changed? My understanding at the moment is that NTB >runs as normal user, and thus inherits this behavior from the kernel >automatically. Yes. NTB will be implemented as that NTB runs as normal user, and thus inherits this behavior from the kernel automatic

Re: [Dev] FW: Tizen 3 services: use case for multi user

2014-09-22 Thread Patrick Ohly
On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 05:32 +, Zheng, Wu wrote: > >NTB could run on a dedicated bluetooth user, as it is the case with weston > >and its dedicated 'display' user. > >Then real users would have to manage their own obex session. > NTB will be modified. So that NTB can run on each user mode and h

Re: [Dev] FW: Tizen 3 services: use case for multi user

2014-09-22 Thread Patrick Ohly
On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 05:19 +, Zheng, Wu wrote: > Hi Corentin and Patrick, > > I just want to double check the multi-pairing use case. > > >> BlueZ 5 persistently pairs remote devices, which brings up a use case > >> for multi-pairing : > >> UserA is paired and connected to deviceR. When use

Re: [Dev] FW: Tizen 3 services: use case for multi user

2014-09-22 Thread Zheng, Wu
Hi Corentin, >- adapter multi-control : when userA is connected to a device, userB can not >modify adapter property (turn OFF bluetooth, change adapter name or >visibility) at the same time. It can be implemented by lock and unlock. > If userB needs some privileges to be allowed to do that.

Re: [Dev] FW: Tizen 3 services: use case for multi user

2014-09-22 Thread Zheng, Wu
Hi Corentin and Patrick, I just want to double check the multi-pairing use case. >> BlueZ 5 persistently pairs remote devices, which brings up a use case >> for multi-pairing : >> UserA is paired and connected to deviceR. When userA is disconnected >> from deviceR, userA stays paired. >> In suc

Re: [Dev] Packages are out of date in Tizen:Common.

2014-09-22 Thread JF Ding
The doc of ‘gbs submit’ usage as blow, for maintainers refer: https://source.tizen.org/documentation/developer-guide/getting-started-guide/contributing-code-tizen (Section 3) thanks - jf.ding On Monday, September 22, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Dominig ar Foll wrote: > Dear maintainers, > > unfort

Re: [Dev] Packages are out of date in Tizen:Common.

2014-09-22 Thread Chanho Park
Hi, I've submitted below packages which were included in Base and System. > fuse > gtest > haptic-module-tizen > leveldb > multipath-tools > psmisc > texinfo > update-alternatives Thank you. Best Regards, Chanho Park > -Original Message- > From: Dev [mailto:dev-boun...@lists.tizen.org]

Re: [Dev] New changes : Application Framework

2014-09-22 Thread Mats Wichmann
> The correct way to notify developers can’t just be to send out an > email after merging changes to Common and assume they implement > required changes without any planning. This just does not work > really well. We can decide not to accept intrusive changes in IVI > for a whi

Re: [Dev] FW: Tizen 3 services: use case for multi user

2014-09-22 Thread corentin.lecou...@open.eurogiciel.org
Le 22/09/2014 17:03, Patrick Ohly a écrit : On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 16:48 +0200, corentin.lecou...@open.eurogiciel.org wrote: Btw let me re-write a multi-pairing use case I wrote at the very bottom of my previous mail... That reply to And I think the reason why we want to support multi-paring is

Re: [Dev] FW: Tizen 3 services: use case for multi user

2014-09-22 Thread Patrick Ohly
On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 16:48 +0200, corentin.lecou...@open.eurogiciel.org wrote: > Btw let me re-write a multi-pairing use case I wrote at the very bottom > of my previous mail... > That reply to > > >> And I think the reason why we want to support multi-paring is just to > >> protect the > >> pe

Re: [Dev] FW: Tizen 3 services: use case for multi user

2014-09-22 Thread corentin.lecou...@open.eurogiciel.org
Hi, In a phone call Dominig recently added that a weaker requirement might also be acceptable: instead of requiring that two different users can pair with the same remote device and use it alternating and/or concurrently, allow a device to be paired with exactly one user and prevent access to it

Re: [Dev] Packages are out of date in Tizen:Common.

2014-09-22 Thread Dominig ar Foll
Dear maintainers, unfortunately Gerrit allows to Publish and Submit (+2 with merge) but maintainers still have to make a gbs summit to trigger the SR on the OBS at the attention of the Release Engineers (Stephane for Common and Ed for IVI). So please check your packages and trigger the SR if you

[Dev] Definition of Tizen release name, version, full version ...

2014-09-22 Thread Stéphane Desneux
Dear all, I'd like to have your opinion about the policy for Tizen release names, versions etc. There's a definition of the release name and version in platform/upstream/tizen-release, but this information is only stored there and not accessible to other packages (except if one package BuildRequi

Re: [Dev] FW: Tizen 3 services: use case for multi user

2014-09-22 Thread Patrick Ohly
On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 15:39 +0200, corentin.lecou...@open.eurogiciel.org wrote: > Hi Zheng Wu, > > Please find more details below. > > Le 22/09/2014 04:40, Zheng, Wu a écrit : > > Hi Dominique, > > > > We still want to clear the Multiuser requirement for NTB. > > > > Can you share the Multiuser r

Re: [Dev] Gumd usage in building images

2014-09-22 Thread Zaman, Imran
Hi As jussi highlighted below, gumd release has been pushed to Tizen with the required changes (updated gumd should end up in Tizen in a day or two hopefully) Krzysztof, you can try out (p2p) gumd (version 0.0.5) at image creation time: 1- export GUM_BUS_TYPE=p2p; and 2- start gumd daemon manual

Re: [Dev] New changes : Application Framework

2014-09-22 Thread Baptiste Durand
Hi Matti-Pekka, Sorry for the inconveniences. Theses changes has discussed since a year ago. We have added CAPI, the oldest are kept. BUT they have a few different meaning now. Indeed, the goal of Multi user features in Tizen 3,presented at San Fransisco in Tizen Dev Conf. ( https://wiki.tizen.o

Re: [Dev] FW: Tizen 3 services: use case for multi user

2014-09-22 Thread corentin.lecou...@open.eurogiciel.org
Hi Zheng Wu, Please find more details below. Le 22/09/2014 04:40, Zheng, Wu a écrit : Hi Dominique, We still want to clear the Multiuser requirement for NTB. Can you share the Multiuser requirement for NTB? Such as multi-paring, multi-adapter and so on. As per https://wiki.tizen.org/wiki/Mult

Re: [Dev] New changes : Application Framework

2014-09-22 Thread Ylinen, Mikko
Hi Baptiste, A few questions and a requests 1. what are the characteristics of a global app? E.g., should all pre-installed apps in the image be global? 2. when is it recommended to per user installation? In Tizen (IVI) we have a lot of application RPMs that either install a .wgt web app or upda

[Dev] Packages are out of date in Tizen:Common.

2014-09-22 Thread Yury Usishchev
Hello guys! In following git projects: cairo dali-toolkit email-service fuse gtest haptic-module-tizen leveldb libcryptsvc libtbm mesa msg-service multipath-tools psmisc texinfo update-alternatives xf86-input-synaptics xf86-module-xdbg there are some changes that were accepted via gerrit into 't

[Dev] Upstream qareport is down

2014-09-22 Thread Nicolas Zingilé
Hi, The upstream qareport server (https://qarpt.tizen.org/) seems to be unavailable : 502 Bad Gateway - Server Error Can someone take a look to fix this ? Regards, Nicolas -- --- Nicolas Zingilé Intel OTC - Vannes FR ___ Dev mailing list Dev@lis

Re: [Dev] scm/meta/git has been updated

2014-09-22 Thread Patrick Ohly
On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 19:43 +0800, JF Ding wrote: > Patrick, > > > Currently, the scm/meta/git update will not be synced to Gerrit > settings automatically, but need to run a script in backend manually, > for more safety checkings. So there will be some mismatching time > windows. This delay is

Re: [Dev] scm/meta/git has been updated

2014-09-22 Thread JF Ding
Patrick, Currently, the scm/meta/git update will not be synced to Gerrit settings automatically, but need to run a script in backend manually, for more safety checkings. So there will be some mismatching time windows. thanks - jf.ding On Monday, September 22, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Patrick Ohly w

Re: [Dev] scm/meta/git has been updated

2014-09-22 Thread Patrick Ohly
On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 10:24 +0200, Łukasz Stelmach wrote: > It was <2014-09-18 czw 18:18>, when Patrick Ohly wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 11:01 +0200, Łukasz Stelmach wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> A few days ago some changes to scm/meta/git has been merged[1]. It > >> appear they still need soome

Re: [Dev] scm/meta/git has been updated

2014-09-22 Thread Łukasz Stelmach
It was <2014-09-18 czw 18:18>, when Patrick Ohly wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 11:01 +0200, Łukasz Stelmach wrote: >> Hi, >> >> A few days ago some changes to scm/meta/git has been merged[1]. It >> appear they still need soome processing to take effect. Please anyone >> capable apply those change

Re: [Dev] New changes : Application Framework

2014-09-22 Thread Sivosuo, Matti-Pekka
Hi, Introducing these kind of changes in CAPI can easily cause build breaks or functional issues in verticals using Common. E.g. in IVI ICO HomeScreen and System Controller might require changes to work correctly when switching to new CAPI. Have you agreed on these changes together with all App

Re: [Dev] IVI - GPU HW support option is available now?

2014-09-22 Thread Liu, Alice
Hi Minkee, Ziv had left Intel. I think the bug number may be https://bugs.tizen.org/jira/browse/TIVI-2409 Now Tizen IVI device still cannot run without GPU. So for Emulator, we still need to make Emulator GPU enabled always. So we need to make the button on emulator manager not be able to be sw