Re: Renaming SolrCloud

2019-10-27 Thread Martin Grigorov
Hi, On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 3:59 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya < ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > I think some of us feel that > SolrCloud or "cloud mode" etc. are misnomers. This name sometimes trips up > many adopters. > > I propose that we rename SolrCloud mode to "cluster mode" such that >

Re: Renaming SolrCloud

2019-10-25 Thread Bram Van Dam
On 20/10/2019 01:32, Noble Paul wrote: > A standalone mode should be nothing but a SolrCloud setup with an > embedded ZK and a single node. From an operations point of view, I disagree. ZK is another process to monitor, another process which can fail, another process which exposes various security

Re: Renaming SolrCloud

2019-10-19 Thread Noble Paul
A standalone mode should be nothing but a SolrCloud setup with an embedded ZK and a single node. If users want to edit config files they can still do it . People edit config files all the time in SolrCloud today. Directly editing files on a filesystem cannot be a requirement that keeps as from mov

Re: Renaming SolrCloud

2019-10-17 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 10/17/2019 10:58 AM, David Smiley wrote: Some ideas: * Add a config file editor to Solr.  Not sure if our APIs are sufficient here; don't want to add another security risk. It would be VERY useful to have this. It should require explicit admin action to enable -- not enabled by default, o

Re: Renaming SolrCloud

2019-10-17 Thread David Smiley
Unfortunately, I think SolrCloud / cluster mode is less easy to use than standalone mode for the developer experience locally. The main pain point is the ease of modifying configuration. In standalone, I go edit some configs using a text editor, then hit "reload" on the core. Presto. With the c

Re: Renaming SolrCloud

2019-10-14 Thread Malcolm Upayavira Holmes
Solr can run Zookeeper embedded. Just make the 'standalone' version run a Zookeeper, then you can deprecate the standalone mode entirely. Also, given that installing ZooKeeper is a pain, and that Solr has the embedded ability to run ZooKeeper, it always seemed a good idea to me to have the optio

Re: Renaming SolrCloud

2019-10-14 Thread Doug Turnbull
I agree very much on normalizing to one mode of running Solr So long as the 'cluster mode' hello world is easier than having to think a lot about zookeeper and other hard things. One reason people use standalone mode because it's as simple as "Point '/bin/solr' at config directory and go". If ther

Re: Renaming SolrCloud

2019-10-14 Thread Houston Putman
Jan, I agree strongly with your last point. And in case you haven't seen it before, there is a solr k8s operator, with a growing community, under development at https://github.com/bloomberg/solr-operator. I agree that taking control of the solr docker images could be a good idea. That way, it cou

Re: Renaming SolrCloud

2019-10-08 Thread Noble Paul
Why even "cluster mode" or "cloud mode"? Solr, by default , should use the cluster mode. So in all our documentation, we should use just "Solr" and it should refer to a "cluster mode of Solr" Wherever we don't have a "cluster mode" should be explicitly qualified as "standalone Solr" On Wed, Oct

Re: Renaming SolrCloud

2019-10-02 Thread Jan Høydahl
+1 to adapting all our docs to make cluster mode the preferred/default and “hide” the standalone use cases more. We could also redefine -c in start script to mean “cluster”? Instead of getting rid of the SolrCloud term, why not strive for making Solr more “cloud native”, and thus live up to the

Re: Renaming SolrCloud

2019-10-01 Thread David Smiley
I hear you and sympathize but "SolrCloud" has been used long enough that I doubt the trouble is worth it. I guess that makes me "+0". That said, I think it wouldn't hurt to formalize "standalone mode" as-such and perhaps say more explicitly that SolrCloud == "cluster mode" even if we don't elimin

Re: Renaming SolrCloud

2019-09-30 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 9/30/2019 6:59 AM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya wrote: I propose that we rename SolrCloud mode to "cluster mode" such that there shall be "Apache Solr", running in either "standalone mode" or "cluster mode". We can effect this renaming 9.0 onwards, if we have consensus. I am open to any other proposa

Renaming SolrCloud

2019-09-30 Thread Ishan Chattopadhyaya
Hi, I think some of us feel that SolrCloud or "cloud mode" etc. are misnomers. This name sometimes trips up many adopters. I propose that we rename SolrCloud mode to "cluster mode" such that there shall be "Apache Solr", running in either "standalone mode" or "cluster mode". We can effect this ren