Re: [Marketing] Mailing lists in the Marketing project

2006-02-01 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 15:54 -0500, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > MP actually works like this in practice, despite your claims to the > contrary. I think that is your perspective, quite a lot of people seem to believe differently but hey, I'm not really that concerned I haven't time to do much m

Re: [Marketing] quote...

2006-02-01 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 22:10 +0100, Steven Pauwels wrote: > >And, again, I feel that your attack on Otto and on Ian's statements as being > >very anti-marketing are uncalled for and wrong. First of all, that page is > >not meant as a marketing tool - your example of it being like a window > >displ

Re: [Marketing] another reason...

2006-02-01 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 16:06 -0500, Daniel Carrera wrote: > Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > > Daniel, want to write a javascript code to do this? I'm all fo > > improving the download page and am not beholden to the "mirrors" > > language at all. There was some discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] on

Re: [Marketing] OOo Home Page deficiencies

2006-02-01 Thread John McCreesh
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 15:14 -0500, Chad Smith wrote: [snip] > Here's what we've got. > > It says "X-Server with 800 x 600 or higher resolution with 16.7 Million > colour" > > Please replace this line with "X11 required. Available for OS X 10.3 on > Apple.com

Re: [Marketing] Mailing lists in the Marketing project

2006-02-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: On 2006-02-01, at 12:02 , Ian Lynch wrote: When people show commitment, we need to channel their energy and enthusiasm. All too often we seem to put obstacles in the way rather than giving them their head. Oh, I disagree! There are plenty of to dos. Yes, they n

Re: [Marketing] another reason...

2006-02-01 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
On 2006-02-01, at 16:06 , Daniel Carrera wrote: Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Daniel, want to write a javascript code to do this? I'm all fo improving the download page and am not beholden to the "mirrors" language at all. There was some discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] on improving the do

Re: [Marketing] quote...

2006-02-01 Thread Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA
All, Does anyone know who the marketing.openoffice.org/education/schools/ site is oriented toward? I get the sense that it is supposed to be toward people who want to help spread the use of OOo to schools. Is that right? Assuming the above is true, is there a web site somewhere that uses the

Re: [Marketing] quote...

2006-02-01 Thread Steven Pauwels
Chad Smith schreef: On 2/1/06, Steven Pauwels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: read my post again and find out why I posted it and the comment again... I did, and I still disagree with your stance on Otto. I don't find him immature, or Ian's statements about him immature. Should the Ed

Re: [Marketing] another reason...

2006-02-01 Thread Daniel Carrera
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Daniel, want to write a javascript code to do this? I'm all fo improving the download page and am not beholden to the "mirrors" language at all. There was some discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] on improving the download page and it's an unofficial to-do. I have to c

Re: [Marketing] another reason...

2006-02-01 Thread Steven Pauwels
Daniel Carrera schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: http://download.openoffice.org/index.html As a possible customer, I do not give a ... about the unstable release that tops the list of downloads... I want to find a clear list that says: 2.0 for WINDOWS, MAC, LINUX. and the a link to previo

Re: [Marketing] quote...

2006-02-01 Thread Chad Smith
On 2/1/06, Steven Pauwels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > read my post again and find out why I posted it and the comment again... > I did, and I still disagree with your stance on Otto. I don't find him immature, or Ian's statements about him immature. Should the Ed Project have its own website

Re: [Marketing] another reason...

2006-02-01 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, On 2006-02-01, at 15:46 , Daniel Carrera wrote: Steven Pauwels wrote: http://download.openoffice.org/index.html As a possible customer, I do not give a ... about the unstable release that tops the list of downloads... I want to find a clear list that says: 2.0 for WINDOWS, MAC, LIN

Re: [Marketing] quote...

2006-02-01 Thread Steven Pauwels
Steven Pauwels schreef: Chad Smith schreef: On 2/1/06, Steven Pauwels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I respectfully and completely disagree. There is no way in the world you can market anything to everyone on earth the same way. Otto isn't meant for conservative business execs. Otto is the

Re: [Marketing] Mailing lists in the Marketing project

2006-02-01 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, On 2006-02-01, at 12:02 , Ian Lynch wrote: On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 09:31 +0100, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: When I joined the Marketing project I started attending several mailing lists, but as I begun to receive a huge amount of mail, I decided to drop all other lists but the dev list. I

Re: [Marketing] another reason...

2006-02-01 Thread Daniel Carrera
Steven Pauwels wrote: http://download.openoffice.org/index.html As a possible customer, I do not give a ... about the unstable release that tops the list of downloads... I want to find a clear list that says: 2.0 for WINDOWS, MAC, LINUX. and the a link to previous versions, followed by a

Re: [Marketing] quote...

2006-02-01 Thread Steven Pauwels
Chad Smith schreef: On 2/1/06, Steven Pauwels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I respectfully and completely disagree. There is no way in the world you can market anything to everyone on earth the same way. Otto isn't meant for conservative business execs. Otto is the spokesbird for the Educatio

Re: [Marketing] another reason...

2006-02-01 Thread Chad Smith
I agree. The Download tab should point here: http://download.openoffice.org/2.0.1/ On 2/1/06, Steven Pauwels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://download.openoffice.org/index.html > > As a possible customer, I do not give a ... about the unstable > release that tops the list of downloads..

Re: [Marketing] quote...

2006-02-01 Thread Chad Smith
On 2/1/06, Steven Pauwels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I respectfully and completely disagree. There is no way in the world you can market anything to everyone on earth the same way. Otto isn't meant for conservative business execs. Otto is the spokesbird for the Education project - not for Ope

[Marketing] another reason...

2006-02-01 Thread Steven Pauwels
http://download.openoffice.org/index.html As a possible customer, I do not give a ... about the unstable release that tops the list of downloads... I want to find a clear list that says: 2.0 for WINDOWS, MAC, LINUX. and the a link to previous versions, followed by a small text saying that

Re: [Marketing] OOo Home Page deficiencies

2006-02-01 Thread Chad Smith
Hi John, On 2/1/06, John McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 18:04 -0500, Chad Smith wrote: > > This page: > > > > http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_20.html > > > > OK, gotcha. Not one of my pages, but I've checked and I have commit > rights, so if you ca

[Marketing] quote...

2006-02-01 Thread Steven Pauwels
As I am reading trough the site, I find some of the decisions and their motivation very unfavorable for marketing... This one is on the Schools Project Logo, a gull making a gesture meaning ok... as the remark on the logo says: for some, it has a completely different meaning... not ok http:

Re: [Marketing] OOo marketing in The Netherlands

2006-02-01 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 19:56 +, John McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 08:40 +0100, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: > [snip] > > I suggest extending the idea so the database will also contain > > sub-projects and activities in the marketing project that are waiting > > for volunteers. Maybe i

Re: [Marketing] Update to marketing site

2006-02-01 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 17:10 -0500, Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA wrote: > Hi. > > Just going through some stuff and noted the following. > > At marketing.openoffice.org/#button > > the links to "logos", "labels", and "Web Banners and Buttons" both take you > to > some old pages from 1.0. > > I wou

Re: [Marketing] 2.0.2 features to announce?

2006-02-01 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, On 2006-02-01, at 10:11 , Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA wrote: Cor, I'll take a shot at this. From what I could glean, I would think the following should be highlighted: - Improved mail merge tools, especially for doing mail merges using e-mail. - Ability to easily surpress blank lines when

Re: [Marketing] OOo marketing in The Netherlands

2006-02-01 Thread John McCreesh
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 08:40 +0100, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: [snip] > I suggest extending the idea so the database will also contain > sub-projects and activities in the marketing project that are waiting > for volunteers. Maybe it could in fact be a project management tool > that > kept track

Re: [Marketing] OOo Home Page deficiencies

2006-02-01 Thread John McCreesh
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 18:04 -0500, Chad Smith wrote: > This page: > > http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_20.html > OK, gotcha. Not one of my pages, but I've checked and I have commit rights, so if you can tell me what changes you want I can make them. I'm not a Mac person, so you

Re: [Marketing] News from The Netherlands - press release MacTel

2006-02-01 Thread Charles-H.Schulz
Hi, Cor Nouws wrote: > Hi all, > > For your information: this morning the following press release (in > Dutch of course) has been sent out on behalf of bsooo.nl and > nl.openoffice.org Thanks Cor! Charles. - To unsubscribe, e-ma

Re: [Marketing] Mailing lists in the Marketing project

2006-02-01 Thread Ian Lynch
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 09:31 +0100, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: > When I joined the Marketing project I started attending several mailing > lists, but as I begun to receive a huge amount of mail, I decided to > drop all other lists but the dev list. I still feel that I get too much > information

Re: [Marketing] 2.0.2 features to announce?

2006-02-01 Thread Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA
Cor, I'll take a shot at this. From what I could glean, I would think the following should be highlighted: - Improved mail merge tools, especially for doing mail merges using e-mail. - Ability to easily surpress blank lines when doing mail merges. - Improved handling of bulleted/numbered list c

[Marketing] News from The Netherlands - press release MacTel

2006-02-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, For your information: this morning the following press release (in Dutch of course) has been sent out on behalf of bsooo.nl and nl.openoffice.org Greetings, Cor -- PRESS RELEASE Arnhem, 1 februari 2006, First OpenOffice.org for MacOS X Intel From this week, the first build o

[Marketing] 2.0.2 features to announce?

2006-02-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, I would like to prepare a press release about 2.0.2 of which the first RC is due end of this month (iirc). I know there are release notes here: http://development.openoffice.org/releases/OpenOffice_org_2_x.html However, that's a long list. Can anyone give thé (or some) main issues, th

Re: [Marketing] OOo marketing in The Netherlands

2006-02-01 Thread Finn Gruwier Larsen
Ian Lynch skrev: Thinking about it, one basic thing I find surprising about the marketing project is that the main resource is the volunteers yet there is no knowledge of what skills are available other than what comes up in discussion. Seems to me that it would be relatively easy to set up a da

[Marketing] Mailing lists in the Marketing project

2006-02-01 Thread Finn Gruwier Larsen
I just sent a posting regarding the need for a project management tool in the Marketing project. That made me think of another thing that also could be done to make the communication in the marketing project more efficient, and that is probably faster to implement: I think we should revise the