Re: [Marketing] hosting

2006-02-02 Thread Daniel Carrera
Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: Host a site with PHP, Mysql databases, 100 mail adresses, 5 mailing lists, subdomains and lots of other things... cost: 25 euro per year... How about that? Sounds nice. But when the budget is zero, even 25 Euro is too much :-) If OOo can't afford 25 EUR/year that i

Re: [Marketing] hosting

2006-02-02 Thread Finn Gruwier Larsen
Steven Pauwels skrev: Host a site with PHP, Mysql databases, 100 mail adresses, 5 mailing lists, subdomains and lots of other things... cost: 25 euro per year... How about that? Sounds nice. But when the budget is zero, even 25 Euro is too much :-) Finn --

Re: [Marketing] Project management tool for Marketing

2006-02-02 Thread John McCreesh
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 22:16 +0100, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: > I mean that such a system has got to be located somewhere. Someone's > got > to install the software on a server, connect it to the internet at > keep > an eye on it now and then. And since we have no money, we can't pay > for > tha

Re: [Marketing] Project management tool for Marketing

2006-02-02 Thread John McCreesh
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 08:39 +0100, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: > SourceForge has more than 200 projects in the category "Project > Management". I'll try to dive a step deeper into it. > > Where could this thing be hosted? CollabNet? As it stands, I guess no, but the wiki proved that if enough of

Re: [Marketing] LCA 2006 report

2006-02-02 Thread Ian Laurenson
I would like to thank some of the people involved in the OpenOffice.org MiniConf that was before LCA 2006. Jonathon Coombes The only person who submitted an abstract. Delivered his material in a professional manner and obviously knew what he was talking about. By request ran a session similar to o

[Marketing] TUX Magazine

2006-02-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
A great magazine for Linux end users have a huge articles on OpenOffice.org they cover Impress, Math and Base. This articles are really good and I think we should promote and give back to this efforts. http://www.tuxmagazine.com -- Alexandro Colorado CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES http://es.

[Marketing] Possible Events for OOo

2006-02-02 Thread Jonathon Coombes
Hi All, Just had a quick look to see what events are possible for either presenting OOo, or for doing a consecutive OOo conference in the same location. Most of them are Australian, but I came across a couple of other very interesting ones while searching and have included them. Maybe we should s

Re: [Marketing] LCA 2006 report

2006-02-02 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 02 February 2006 17:53, Charles-H.Schulz wrote: > Hello Graham, > > Graham Lauder wrote: > >Report on LCA 2006. > > I'll forward parts of your message to the NLC list. I guess I can > speak for every NL leads out there and say that we fell flattered :-) > ... Best, > Charles. > Excelle

Re: [Marketing] Bank account

2006-02-02 Thread Daniel Carrera
As someone who is not a FoOD member but is a FoOD "customer", I think that they do an excellent job. We get full, published accounts, complete control and none of the hassle. This service was invaluable for ODF when co-sponsoring the SCALE conference, from the fund raiser, to the spenditures. F

[Marketing] Bank account

2006-02-02 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
The Friends of OpenDocument Inc. (FoOD) was set up to handle money for any organisation or group that fits our mission and needs the services of a bank account and PayPal account. Daniel's earlier note to this list may have left the impression that FoOD was set up to fund the OpenDocument Fell

[Marketing] hosting

2006-02-02 Thread Steven Pauwels
Host a site with PHP, Mysql databases, 100 mail adresses, 5 mailing lists, subdomains and lots of other things... cost: 25 euro per year... How about that? this is not a commercial... i just happen to know this because I use it... Financial dependancy on the internet is like a saying that we l

Re: [Marketing] Project management tool for Marketing

2006-02-02 Thread Finn Gruwier Larsen
Louis Suarez-Potts skrev: Where could this thing be hosted? CollabNet? That's one possibility, but not quite know what you mean. Do you mean on this site? CN also offers minimally managed and fairly cheap hosting for open-source project work. I mean that such a system has got to be loca

Re: [Marketing] Seagull

2006-02-02 Thread Finn Gruwier Larsen
Louis Suarez-Potts skrev: Did your team go through the Art project? I'm not sure what you mean... Nod... Why don't you send this (your original) post to the Art project, so that we can all benefit? Otherwise, things can get lost... and the Art project has a store of images, etc., that ot

Re: [Marketing] bank account

2006-02-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 12:24 -0500, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > But Ian, let's proceed in a > rational manner :-) My Name is Ian R Lynch. The R stands for rational. I'm trained as a physicist, how else could I be ;-) -- Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZMS Ltd -

Re: [Marketing] LCA 2006 report

2006-02-02 Thread Daniel Carrera
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Minor correction: Friends of OpenDocument Inc (FoOD) is not a company limited by guarantee, because that would have cost over $1000 AUD to set up. It is an "incorporated association", which cost a bit over $100 AUD to register. However, the result is much the same: an o

Re: [Marketing] LCA 2006 report

2006-02-02 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Daniel Carrera wrote: ... the OpenDocument Fellowship has been through this. We started out with a company limited by guarantee in Australia (Jean's Friends of OpenDocument) which stills handles our finnances. Minor correction: Friends of OpenDocument Inc (FoOD) is not a company limited by g

Re: [Marketing] bank account

2006-02-02 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, On 2006-02-02, at 13:07 , Steven Pauwels wrote: I am not quite sure that we see the same thing when talking about a business. How substantial are their funds? The thing is... I could use the possibity to access some venture capital from major investors on EU market if presented a go

Re: [Marketing] Project management tool for Marketing

2006-02-02 Thread Sparky
Subject: Re: [Marketing] Project management tool for Marketing From: Claus Agerskov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 09:42:41 +0100 (CET) On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: SourceForge has more than 200 projects in the category "Project Management". I'll try to dive

Re: [Marketing] bank account

2006-02-02 Thread Steven Pauwels
Louis Suarez-Potts schreef: hi On 2006-02-02, at 12:14 , Steven Pauwels wrote: Hi... I am very curious where this will end... it will end with a us-based nonprofit soon. :-) I'd like to get it set up before March, if possible. I have thought about a EU business operating from Brusse

Re: [Marketing] LCA 2006 report

2006-02-02 Thread Charles-H.Schulz
Hello Graham, Graham Lauder wrote: >Report on LCA 2006. > > I'll forward parts of your message to the NLC list. I guess I can speak for every NL leads out there and say that we fell flattered :-) ... Best, Charles. - To unsubs

Re: [Marketing] Seagull

2006-02-02 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
HI, On 2006-02-02, at 02:59 , Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: Speaking of gulls - when the DA team should design a poster for our booth on the LinuxForum conference in Copenhagen next month, we didn't find any official OOo material that we thought was useful. Did your team go through the Art pr

Re: [Marketing] Project management tool for Marketing

2006-02-02 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, On 2006-02-02, at 02:39 , Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: John McCreesh skrev: On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 08:40 +0100, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: [snip] I suggest extending the idea so the database will also contain sub-projects and activities in the marketing project that are waiting for volunt

Re: [Marketing] bank account

2006-02-02 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
hi On 2006-02-02, at 12:14 , Steven Pauwels wrote: Hi... I am very curious where this will end... it will end with a us-based nonprofit soon. :-) I'd like to get it set up before March, if possible. I have thought about a EU business operating from Brussels to sponsor, market and man

Re: [Marketing] bank account

2006-02-02 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
HI, On 2006-02-02, at 12:06 , Ian Lynch wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 11:40 -0500, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: I proposed this ages ago, even suggesting do it simple, like create a club bank account. Some issues came up, along the lines of liability and accountability, and so it died. No-one

Re: [Marketing] bank account

2006-02-02 Thread Steven Pauwels
Ian Lynch schreef: On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 11:40 -0500, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: I proposed this ages ago, even suggesting do it simple, like create a club bank account. Some issues came up, along the lines of liability and accountability, and so it died. No-one asked me. This is a

Re: [Marketing] bank account

2006-02-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 11:40 -0500, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > > I proposed this ages ago, even suggesting do it simple, like create a > club bank account. Some issues came up, along the lines of liability > and accountability, and so it died. No-one asked me. This is a specific example of w

Re: [Marketing] 2.0.2 features to announce?

2006-02-02 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, On 2006-02-02, at 07:30 , Cor Nouws wrote: Thanks Jeffry & Louis. I started my request with the url ;-) Lol. :-/ Best, Louis smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [Marketing] Re: [marketing-events] Re: [Marketing] LCA 2006 report

2006-02-02 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, On 2006-02-02, at 11:15 , Daniel Carrera wrote: Ian Lynch wrote: That's fine, but if there is likely to be any delay, why not just set up a bank account and company limited by guarantee for marketing? It can be done tomorrow - just have the Lead and Co-lead as the CEO and company secre

Re: [Marketing] bank account

2006-02-02 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi On 2006-02-02, at 10:52 , Ian Lynch wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 10:21 -0500, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: You may want to look at the Community Council archives. Last year we discussed creating a nonprofit for marketing and other activities (the actual purpose would be to manage money) but l

Re: [Marketing] Re: [marketing-events] Re: [Marketing] LCA 2006 report

2006-02-02 Thread Daniel Carrera
Ian Lynch wrote: That's fine, but if there is likely to be any delay, why not just set up a bank account and company limited by guarantee for marketing? It can be done tomorrow - just have the Lead and Co-lead as the CEO and company secretary and as signatories to a bank account and get started.

Re: [Marketing] 2.0.2 features to announce?

2006-02-02 Thread Cor Nouws
James Walker wrote: When will 2.0.2 be available? IIRC the first release candidate is end of February. So say begining of March. Therefore I would like to send out a message/preview to the press (if enough interesting is to tell, of course) within a few weeks and an official announcment if 2.

Re: [Marketing] Re: [marketing-events] Re: [Marketing] LCA 2006 report

2006-02-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 10:21 -0500, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > You may want to look at the Community Council archives. Last year we > discussed creating a nonprofit for marketing and other activities > (the actual purpose would be to manage money) but little came of it, > though not because

Re: [Marketing] 2.0.2 features to announce?

2006-02-02 Thread James Walker
When will 2.0.2 be available? James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Marketing] LWE Boston

2006-02-02 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, LinuxWorld Expo Boston is coming soon: 3-6 April. I think it is very important that OOo be fully represented there. Not only is Massachusetts leading the fight for the government use of the opendocument format, which OOo uses, but a lot of media attention has been focused on that fight

[Marketing] Re: [marketing-events] Re: [Marketing] LCA 2006 report

2006-02-02 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, On 2006-02-02, at 10:14 , Ian Lynch wrote: On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 02:04 +, Graham Lauder wrote: In conclusion many positives in terms of the greater conference. Many more educators are aware of OOo. We have a positive high profile as a project, especially in terms of the NLC. Ho

Re: [Marketing] LCA 2006 report

2006-02-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 02:04 +, Graham Lauder wrote: > In conclusion many positives in terms of the greater conference. Many > more educators are aware of OOo. We have a positive high profile as a > project, especially in terms of the NLC. However we did ourselves no > favours with the M

[Marketing] LCA 2006 report

2006-02-02 Thread Graham Lauder
Report on LCA 2006. I have in the past been unsure as to the value of MiniConfs attached to Linux Confs given that I've seen it as a “preaching to the converted” exercise, given that most Linux distros come with OOo in any case. However, now that I have attended my first major Linux conf, I am

Re: [Marketing] Mailing lists in the Marketing project

2006-02-02 Thread Steven Pauwels
Ian Lynch schreef: On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 15:54 -0500, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: MP actually works like this in practice, despite your claims to the contrary. I think that is your perspective, quite a lot of people seem to believe differently but hey, I'm not really that concerned

Re: [Marketing] 2.0.2 features to announce?

2006-02-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, I'll take a shot at this. From what I could glean, I would think the following should be highlighted: - Improved mail merge tools, especially for doing mail merges using e-mail. - Ability to easily surpress blank lines when doing mail merges. - Improved handling of bulleted/numbered lis

Re: [Marketing] quote...

2006-02-02 Thread Ian Lynch
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 08:23 +0100, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: > Ian Lynch skrev: > > >>>And, again, I feel that your attack on Otto and on Ian's statements as > >>>being > >>>very anti-marketing are uncalled for and wrong. First of all, that page is > >>>not meant as a marketing tool - your exam

Re: [Marketing] Project management tool for Marketing

2006-02-02 Thread Claus Agerskov
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: > SourceForge has more than 200 projects in the category "Project > Management". I'll try to dive a step deeper into it. > > Where could this thing be hosted? CollabNet? > > Are there any technical limitations or preferred/not so preferred > techn

Re: [Marketing] Project management tool for Marketing

2006-02-02 Thread Finn Gruwier Larsen
John McCreesh skrev: On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 08:40 +0100, Finn Gruwier Larsen wrote: [snip] I suggest extending the idea so the database will also contain sub-projects and activities in the marketing project that are waiting for volunteers. Maybe it could in fact be a project management tool tha

[Marketing] Seagull

2006-02-02 Thread Finn Gruwier Larsen
Speaking of gulls - when the DA team should design a poster for our booth on the LinuxForum conference in Copenhagen next month, we didn't find any official OOo material that we thought was useful. So we decided to look elsewhere, and we finally agreed upon the seagull you'll find here: http:/

Re: [Marketing] quote...

2006-02-02 Thread Finn Gruwier Larsen
Ian Lynch skrev: And, again, I feel that your attack on Otto and on Ian's statements as being very anti-marketing are uncalled for and wrong. First of all, that page is not meant as a marketing tool - your example of it being like a window display is faulty - it's more like it's a tool in the b