Bernhard Dippold wrote:

> The _general idea to support ODF branding_ from OOo side is seen mainly
> positive, but not everybody wants to see it prior to OOo branding.
> Strong support by Drew Jensen ("One of the most important steps for OOo
> in the moment." "Invest OOo's capital in market share."), 

To put Peter's comment in context for those joining the ODF icon
discussion only this year, during the last three plus years Microsoft
and proxies have used the ODF <=> OOo talking point very, very heavily
to attack both.  Various shills, astroturfers, and 'useful idiots' [1]
often wrote of both interchangeably as one often sees from the same
group an apparently intentional confusion of open source and open
standards.  Public discussions in and out of mainstream came up
especially around the attack on Massachusetts and especially in the
analysis of the smear campaign against commonwealth employee.  So
keeping a distinction between ODF and OOo remains essential.

However, my comment regarding branding is that the branding, for our
set, not be third place.  It was said better by yourself and John
McCreesh.

> skeptic notes
> by Peter Junge ("OOo is not equal ODF.") and Lars Nooden ("Project
> should focus on OOo instead of ODF branding.").

Skeptic in regards as to whether OOo is the appropriate forum for these
discussion.  Not skeptic to having icons more (not necessarily
completely, just more) oriented towards format than application.  Nor
skeptic in regards to ODF icons:

 http://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDL-7586
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/130836


Regards,
/Lars

[1]     The intent is not to insult but to describe as accurately possible
the specific roles.  These terms do have a negative connotation, but do
exist to describe a very specific role in media, propaganda and
political campaigns:
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/04/12/magazine/on-language.html?pagewanted=1
like the one run by M$


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