Re: [marketing] The Caesar what is Caesar's

2010-09-05 Thread Lars Nooden
On 09/05/2010 02:44 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote: But as it stands I believe it is disrespectful and foolish to cast unwarranted suspicions on Oracle. Sun Microsystems has made tremendous efforts in the development of OpenOffice.org, for which we should be thankful. And if Oracle plans to continue

Re: [marketing] Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive

2010-08-29 Thread Lars Nooden
On 08/26/2010 09:44 PM, Mirek M. wrote: But it's a good starting point for a new branch. No. It's not. The changes introduced in that one are introduced by Microsoft affiliates with a bad history on standards and licensing. There is a good reason it was forked. Personally, I would like to

Re: [marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-29 Thread Lars Nooden
Hi, Russell, On 08/25/2010 10:59 PM, WorldLabel.com wrote: Regarding the application Icon, I see one with a TM here and others without: http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html I am not sure but I think that cannot be tradmarked but would have to be registered? Pick one that

Re: [marketing] Printable Openoffice.org Logo templates

2010-08-24 Thread Lars Nooden
On 08/23/2010 10:30 PM, WorldLabel.com wrote: Please try again after adding the gulls to the logo at the right position and in the right. http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/taxonomy/term/1305 Are those better? They look nice. In the Openoffice.org 2 x 4 stickers, there is

Re: [marketing] stickers (was Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation)

2010-08-20 Thread Lars Nooden
it is fine for me in Firefox. I notice konqueror has a little trouble with it, though. If another format is needed, say which one. And I can add it. /Lars KAMI On 2010-08-18 11:08, Lars Nooden wrote: Hi, Kami, In your quest for printing flying discs, is there a local shop there able to do

Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

2010-08-18 Thread Lars Nooden
On 08/18/2010 11:56 AM, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote: I am a bit forced to provide the final logo ASAP. Do you have decision about the sample that I sent to you yesterday? http://www.openoffice.org/source/browse/www/www/trademark/symbol_color.svg?view=markup The page linked to above says:

[marketing] stickers (was Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation)

2010-08-18 Thread Lars Nooden
Hi, Kami, In your quest for printing flying discs, is there a local shop there able to do 4cm or 5cm circular, weather-proof (vinyl or MOPP) 2-color stickers? We have a logo but no print shop, http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Stickers-2010 Regards, /Lars

Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

2010-08-18 Thread Lars Nooden
On 08/18/2010 12:50 PM, Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai wrote: Try to download it, Ok. Downloading shows the image. http://www.openoffice.org/source/browse/*checkout*/www/www/trademark/symbol_color.svg?rev=1.2 I wonder why the preview is not working. Regards, /Lars

Re: [marketing] World Wide Installed Base - Estimate August 2010

2010-08-18 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010/8/18 Drew Jensen wrote: Anyway - it was really a spur of the moment decision to plug in new pop. figures. http://ooo.baseanswers.com/ooo-mktshr-082010.pdf Thanks! It's very interesting to see which regions are growing. Any word on Norway? I notice that it is not listed on the pdf,

Re: [marketing] What to do for 10 years OpenOffice.org?

2010-07-28 Thread Lars Nooden
On 07/28/2010 02:20 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: I think the font type and design could be improved. I would preffer same blue fonts as the logo. I can use the same typeface, but the size should be different. What is the name of the typeface used in the logo? /Lars

Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation (now examples)

2010-07-28 Thread Lars Nooden
On 07/27/2010 06:50 PM, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote: I did an additional update to the wiki with two proposals for the discs. Nice. Either one would be good. If these are for the 10th anniversary, then maybe a line opposite the address could be used for that. /Lars

Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

2010-07-27 Thread Lars Nooden
On 07/27/2010 05:48 PM, Rosana Ardila Biela wrote: I updated the link, you should be able to see the discs and prices now. ... http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2010_flying_disc Thanks. 0,44 EUR apeice seems ok. Do they fly well? The spec says 160 mm, but how much do they weigh?

Re: [marketing] What to do for 10 years OpenOffice.org?

2010-07-27 Thread Lars Nooden
On 07/27/2010 01:39 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: * some banner/stickers to put on the street Lars will work on the stickers. :) Here is one draft for discussion, aiming at 4.5 cm: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/b/be/Ooo-sticker-2010-draft-01.svg A bumper sticker is also an

Re: [marketing] flying discs quotation

2010-07-26 Thread Lars Nooden
On 07/26/2010 10:41 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: On the other hand this would mean a second color (black and blue), so costs will be much more (if I read the website right, this would mean about 30 Cent per disc). Just to be clear, is it the case that the color versions of the new branding

Re: [marketing] What to do for 10 years OpenOffice.org?

2010-07-25 Thread Lars Nooden
with native support for Ogg Theora: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.5/releasenotes/ It is as good a baseline for a universally viewable video format as is currently possible. /Lars -Original Message- From: Lars Nooden Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:01 PM To: dev

Re: [marketing] What to do for 10 years OpenOffice.org?

2010-07-25 Thread Lars Nooden
On 07/25/2010 03:40 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: On 07/24/2010 05:18 PM, Nicola wrote: Allright, thx, uploaded the .mpg format. The only .ogg I found is audio .ogg is a filename extension and what a thing is called is only what it is called. only tho..am I missing out on some ogg video format

Re: [marketing] What to do for 10 years OpenOffice.org?

2010-07-24 Thread Lars Nooden
On 07/24/2010 03:21 PM, Nicola wrote: Sorry again, but I don’t have anywhere where to upload the video. For some reason also cannot login to the OO page. Log in to the wiki and then upload the video. A copy in Ogg Theora (an open format) in addition to the MPEG one for legacy systems would

Re: [marketing] Rupee font (Rupee Foradian.ttf)

2010-07-23 Thread Lars Nooden
On 07/23/2010 10:52 AM, goldf...@aol.in wrote: http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/foradian/3UAMU7WINSptf5AKZPu2v0PFx9AuWoAuUvDiKk2dvBK5nGectr2029CQ7EdP/Rupee_Foradian.ttf Where does it fit in the grand scheme of international standards and, specifically, Unicode? /Lars

Re: [marketing] Rupee font (Rupee Foradian.ttf)

2010-07-23 Thread Lars Nooden
On 07/23/2010 11:10 AM, goldf...@aol.in wrote: ... But this could possibly impact around 1/6 of humanity (Indians). Fine, the population of India is well known, but where does the new symbol fit in with Unicode? Please post a link so that a global solution can be applied that is harmonious with

Re: [marketing] 10 years celebrations in two steps

2010-07-22 Thread Lars Nooden
On 7/22/10 8:24 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: ... because it has much more problems on the firewall We can look at that after the summer. Skype is very constraining and not what could be called secure. However, be aware that e.g. people joining from companies need to use a regular phone

Re: [marketing] Reminder: ConfCall tomorrow

2010-07-20 Thread Lars Nooden
Hi, Florian, On the calls, the idea of a separate conference for planning the Countdown was raised several times and met with approval. Could you set a poll for choosing a date for that? /Lars Florian Effenberger wrote: Tomorrow is of course WEDNESDAY. Mea culpa :-) ...

[marketing] Logo, Stickers, swag for OOo 10th Anniversary

2010-07-20 Thread Lars Nooden
OOo Con 2010 is very rapidly approaching and that kicks off the countdown to the 10th anniversary on Oct 13th. It's getting to be time to prepare to round up swag. http://marketing.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=113278 http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/ What kind of

[marketing] American Library Association 2010 Conference in Washington, D.C.

2010-07-13 Thread Lars Nooden
How did OOo's presence go at ALA's annual conference last month? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/US/Home/ALA-2010 /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional

Re: [marketing] Short Video Marking OOo's 10th Anniversary

2010-07-03 Thread Lars Nooden
On 07/01/2010 09:12 AM, Varun Mittal wrote: Hi All, Maybe we can make a smaller video with simple tools like Google [snip] which shall stream of images. Such a video will be easy to make and we can have more people contributing since we only need images. Images don't usually get streamed,

[marketing] stickers (was Re: [marketing] What to do for 10 years OpenOffice.org?)

2010-07-02 Thread Lars Nooden
On 07/01/2010 12:43 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Bernhard, Bernhard Dippold wrote on 2010-07-01 00.18: Some time ago we discussed here and in the Marketing call creation of dedicated postage stamps for our Anniversary in several countries or at least for Hungary (if this is possible

Re: [marketing] You've been linked -- Open Office

2010-06-29 Thread Lars Nooden
Andy, OpenOffice is a TRADEMARKED name belonging to some random company unaffiliated with our software. Copyright is very different than trademark and names in and of themselves are not subject to copyright. /Lars - To

Re: [marketing] Short Video Marking OOo's 10th Anniversary

2010-06-27 Thread Lars Nooden
On 6/23/10 7:49 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Ivan M wrote on 2010-06-21 10.52: With OpenOffice.org's 10th anniversary coming up and the gathering at OOoCon, I was wondering about the possibility of creating a short film/video marking this milestone - a brief history of the project - past,

Re: [marketing] What to do for 10 years OpenOffice.org?

2010-06-27 Thread Lars Nooden
On 6/27/10 9:56 AM, Samphan Raruenrom wrote: I suggest that we have a global event like software freedom day or document freedom day. That is having events celebrating the anniversary everywhere around the world in the same day. All organizers of the event should register the plan in a wiki and

Re: [marketing] What to do for 10 years OpenOffice.org?

2010-06-26 Thread Lars Nooden
Luiz Oliveira wrote: The Brazilian community can prepare a special issue commemorating 10 years of OOo to publish in the BrOffice.org Magazine +1 Also, Ubuntu's Full Circle might be another. http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ and the Free Software Magazine

Re: [marketing] What to do for 10 years OpenOffice.org?

2010-06-26 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: ...do some sort of countdown, i.e. activities beginning at OOoCon in September and ending on our birthday, October 13th. +1 I like that idea very much. The OOo Con can give the anniversary a great kick off. something twice a week:.. Being a bit ambitious there

Re: [marketing] Re: compare import export filters, ODT, DOC, WP, OO etc

2010-06-23 Thread Lars Nooden
On 6/23/10 10:36 AM, Uwe Brauer wrote: It is strange that the OO filters have not improve much over the last years, Uwe, if you have a specific part of a specific document that is not rendering properly then the way to get it fixed is to file a specific bug report and upload the offending

Re: [marketing] Re: compare import export filters, ODT, DOC, WP, OO etc

2010-06-23 Thread Lars Nooden
On 6/23/10 3:26 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote: I did this already, and alas, these issue are known for almost 4 years. Please post the URL so we can see which issue(s) are being referred to. Also, this is more of a us...@openoffice.org topic, rather than a marketing topic. Regards, /Lars

Re: [marketing] Re: compare import export filters, ODT, DOC, WP, OO etc

2010-06-23 Thread Lars Nooden
On 6/23/10 4:01 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote: ... The quality of the filters in general, it think are very much an topic of marketing, since they are the central part of the OO adoption. Not really. There was never 100% fidelity between MS Office versions nor even between the same version on

Re: [marketing] Re: compare import export filters, ODT, DOC, WP, OO etc

2010-06-23 Thread Lars Nooden
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 16:17 +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: Anyway, the world has moved on from closed, proprietary office formats. On 6/23/10 4:43 PM, Ian wrote: Not fast enough! Definitely not fast enough. We do see now which individuals and teams are the obstacles and can deal with them

Re: [marketing] misuse of open office tradename on google.nl

2010-06-22 Thread Lars Nooden
Arne Wagenaar wrote on 2010-06-19 00.11: ... This ad appears on google.nl. Instead of promoting open office it comes with advertising and I think with an offer for Microsoft office. There seems to be a bit of that kind of spamming alslo happening with the templates. Document templates are a

Re: [marketing] compare import export filters, ODT, DOC, WP, OO etc

2010-06-22 Thread Lars Nooden
On 6/22/10 3:47 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote: Can somebody point out review about the import export filters for doc and odt? OOo reads and writes ODF natively. There is no need for a filter. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [marketing] Online Open Office

2010-05-21 Thread Lars Nooden
On 05/21/2010 05:44 AM, Andy Brown wrote: And going C/S helps, how? Hi, Andy, Using a web browser means you already are using client-server architecture -- minus the ability to keep a stateful connection due to the inherent statelessness of HTTP, the protocol used to connect to the web

Re: [marketing] Online Open Office

2010-05-21 Thread Lars Nooden
On 05/21/2010 05:25 AM, Chaosun wrote: ... Another is the OOo has already installed on the computer no matter the user knows or not, when required, the OOo will automatically embeded into the browser to meet the needs... That would in effect have users downloading an entire set of modules from

Re: [marketing] Online Open Office

2010-05-21 Thread Lars Nooden
On 05/21/2010 01:00 PM, eric b wrote: The problem I see, is a lot of schools have poor in RAM / old machines, and often ... catastrophic network. That last one, the network, is often a staffing problem too... It's partially that there is virtually no IT education occurring anywhere anymore and

Re: [marketing] Online Open Office

2010-05-20 Thread Lars Nooden
On 05/19/2010 12:31 AM, Andy Brown wrote: I think your missing a big security problem here. Going C/S will open up all kinds of security holes... Andy, a browser is an HTTP / HTTPS client connecting to an HTTP server. Unlike many client-server architectures, HTTP is stateless, which adds a

Re: [marketing] Online Open Office

2010-05-20 Thread Lars Nooden
On 05/18/2010 06:24 PM, Varun Mittal wrote: Hi Christopher, Of what understanding I have for an online office is servers and their management. And in line with what Miroslav said yes we can work on creating a host any where version of open office. Provide an online service to allow remote

Re: [marketing] MS seeks student to market against OOo

2010-05-03 Thread Lars Nooden
On 05/03/2010 09:32 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, interesting article: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/marketing-students-tapped-to-market-microsoft/story-e6frg996-1225861313001 Will comment on later on via blog and twitter... Generally, examine anyone promoting M$

Re: [marketing] Personalized stamps - a possible marketing idea for our 10th anniversary?

2010-04-26 Thread Lars Nooden
On 04/26/2010 02:07 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: My idea derives from the possibility to design personalized stamps in several countries serving as official postage for letters. I was actually pricing that last week because there's a place nearby me to make custom postage stamps. However,

Re: [marketing] Re: OpenOffice history and milestones

2010-04-20 Thread Lars Nooden
John McCreesh wrote on 2010-04-19 22.05: We used to keep our own newsroom (see the cvs history) but when PRWeb launched their newsroom service it was much easier to use theirs (one less site to maintain). They let us use the service free of charge. PR Web is probably useful to continue if it

[marketing] Marketing solutions to revisionism and trolling (was:- ODF icons - possible compromise?)

2010-04-18 Thread Lars Nooden
Revisionism is a marketing issue that we can take a more active stance on. On 04/18/2010 03:45 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: In the past we copied MS Office by creating sub-applications to be comparable to their single apps, but internally, we just opened a new text, spreadsheet or presentation

Re: [marketing] OpenOffice history and milestones

2010-04-18 Thread Lars Nooden
Thanks On 04/17/2010 03:08 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: [snip] A more brief, but up-to-date history is at http://www.openoffice.org/news/ http://marketing.openoffice.org/press_releases.html [snip] The second link only has one page: http://newsrooms.prweb.com/OOo/page2.html If we

[marketing] OpenOffice history and milestones

2010-04-16 Thread Lars Nooden
I see that the page on OpenOffice history and milestones could use some refreshing? http://www.openoffice.org/about_us/milestones.html 1) What is important these last 5 years? 2) Who can make the update? Regards /Lars

Re: [marketing] status of the 2004 SWOT based recommendations

2010-04-01 Thread Lars Nooden
On 03/31/2010 10:28 PM, Sophie wrote: Hi Lars, all, I didn't check yet, but did/will you update the wiki page with all your findings? I can put them verbatim for now. What URL? I did go over the old marketing plan in great detail when it was first drafted, but many of my recent comments

Re: [marketing] status of the 2004 SWOT based recommendations

2010-03-31 Thread Lars Nooden
On 03/31/2010 01:12 PM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: ...As start I created http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Smp_status_2010 for collecting a status of the recommendation done in 2004. Some interesting question are coming up: * should we update the plan ? Yes. It should also be reviewed

Re: [marketing] status of the 2004 SWOT based recommendations

2010-03-31 Thread Lars Nooden
On 03/31/2010 01:12 PM, Martin Hollmichel wrote: ... As start I created http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Smp_status_2010 for collecting a status of the recommendation done in 2004. O-W + The macro issue can move on to this decade by emphasizing support for scripting in python and

Re: [marketing] status of the 2004 SWOT based recommendations

2010-03-31 Thread Lars Nooden
Martin, There are a lot of documents here mentioning specifically by name Sun, Oracle or their products: http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=ComesExhN01 It is a very large task for more than one person to find all the citations. The payoff is knowing the other side of

Re: [marketing] ConfCall recording available

2010-03-18 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-18 9:27 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: the ConfCall recording from yesterday is now available: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls#2010-03-17_14:00_UTC Thanks. Would it be easy to add an Ogg Speex file? If for no other reason it would be a way of preparing

[marketing] OOo swag

2010-03-18 Thread Lars Nooden
Drew mentioned that he would also be looking into finding where to get OOo swag produced and made available for sale. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing_ConfCalls#2010-03-17_14:00_UTC Per, how did your recent investigations into options in that area go? /Lars

Re: [marketing] Document freedom day

2010-03-18 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-18 8:39 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Custom videos can also be provided on our Youtube Channel and other ideas might come along. Good idea. IIRC there has been some work on videos, but I can't recall by who. AFAIK, Impress cannot export to animated svg, s3 or ogg. But, at least on

Re: [marketing] Document freedom day

2010-03-18 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-18 10:17 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: However I was thinking more of a Slidecast (from slideshare) you just upload your presentation, and a recording of your talk, and then you can mix it on the webpage so the slides changes through the timeline of your talk, you can see an example

Re: [marketing] eWEEK’s Top 25 Technologies Of The Decade - OpenOffice.org is listed

2010-03-15 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-15 11:02 AM, Ian wrote: I don't know why supplanting ... I would guess because journalists, or at least editors, are required to plant the nasty M-word everywhere to take some of the thunder out of successful technology or innovators. Even the Wikipedia article about Steve Jobs ends

Re: [marketing] Follow MS Office branding with 11 single applications or go an independent way?

2010-03-15 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-14 11:00 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: During the last ten years we've been very successful in being as similar to MS Office as possible. That's very unfortunate that there are some camps that managed to get inside the community that think that way. Or say that they think that way.

Re: [marketing] report on CeBIT and funding request

2010-03-14 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-14 4:06 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: ... CeBIT is very expensive, but for us, it has such an important marketing impact, that we shouldn't miss it. Being there is just a necessity ... +1 It is hard to overstate the importance of having a high profile at CeBIT. I expect we should

Re: [marketing] marketing confcall in March

2010-03-11 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-11 11:01 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: ...cast your vote for the preferred day. Those are UTC times, right? /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: [marketing] Re: [xml-dev] DFD this March 30th - What we going to do about it?

2010-03-11 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-11 4:18 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: I'd like to see if we can coordinate a press release for DFD on p...@marketing…. +1 Who is the target audience for the press release? Or is it a general one? What is the one thing that should be the emphasis in the release? Also, April 1st

Re: [marketing] Re: [council-discuss] Call for Nominations for Community Council Seats

2010-03-02 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-3-2 9:36 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: I'd like to nominate John McCreesh, Co-Lead of the Marketing Project and its former Lead, for a second term. John has ever since been working in the spirit of the community, and I respect his wisdom and his way of collaborating, as well as his

Re: [marketing] Templates for ALA conference

2010-03-01 Thread Lars Nooden
On 2010-2-27 5:38 PM, Andy Brown wrote: Juergen Schmidt wrote: I would go with one clear visual concepts for ALA and wouldn't mix different things. OOo4Kids addressed a completely different user group and librarians are probably more interested in OOo. Depends on the library. ALA covers US

[marketing] Getting a corrected listing

2010-02-25 Thread Lars Nooden
Yesterday I looked again at Apple.com's download site and notice that the licensing information for OOo is still wrong. I've filed bug reports with Apple in the past, but there is no way to share links to the reports to other accounts. How can we get a more accurate description of OOo and remove

Re: [marketing] OO.o usage level worksheet

2010-02-17 Thread Lars Nooden
Drew Jensen wrote: Just to follow up from the phone conference. ... Post the URL to the worksheet. Attachments are never a good idea, especially to a list. It's a serious faux pas to try to use mail as a surrogate for a file system, especially a mailing list which will have recipients that may

Re: [marketing] Donate to OOo via Twitter

2010-02-16 Thread Lars Nooden
Juergen Schmidt wrote: On 2/15/10 5:46 PM, Goran Rakic wrote: У пон, 15. 02 2010. у 10:38 -0600, Alexandro Colorado пише: Is just a gateway to connect to the paypal account. so is the same as a paypal donation, except this adds some interesting layers like total donations and goals. No, it

Re: [marketing] Fwd: Linux Today - It's Not The Hokey Cokey; OpenOffice BACK In Ubuntu Netbook Edition After User Outcry

2010-02-13 Thread Lars Nooden
Andy Brown wrote: The way I see it is that Microsoft, trying to control the end user, does not make it east to add non-MS programs. The control also comes from Windows speed bumps inside posing as IT support. [1] In environments like that, you will see a lot of Windows downloads, because

Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Lars Nooden
Hi, Florian, Florian Effenberger wrote: according to the current Doodle poll at http://www.doodle.com/5cnsa73dbc6hfd28, the 2nd marketing confcall is most likely to take place next Wednesday, February 17th, 1700 CET Will we be able to start testing the SIP conference calling soon?

Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: We have a free hosting offer by talkyoo, they offer several landline dialins Yes, it's a great start. There are land-line dial-ins for Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Spain, France, and The Netherlands. What is the ETA for the other countries with active OOo

Re: [marketing] follow-up on 2nd marketing confcall

2010-02-12 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Lars, Lars Nooden wrote on 2010-02-12 12.22: Yes, it's a great start. There are land-line dial-ins for Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Spain, France, and The Netherlands. What is the ETA for the other countries with active OOo localization teams

Re: [marketing] Some very interesting stats

2010-02-10 Thread Lars Nooden
Benjamin Horst wrote: These stats are interesting and very positive for OOo. On Feb 9, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html Because the stats were collected using javascript

Re: [marketing] Some very interesting stats

2010-02-10 Thread Lars Nooden
Juergen Schmidt wrote: mmh, nice idea but probably impossible. I think the vendors get money to bundle this piece of software with their computers. I gave the OEM project a try in 2004 or 2005. Back then the choice of bundles and the bundled contents didn't seem to be about the software. It

Re: [marketing] Ubuntu Remix droping OpenOffice.org

2010-02-07 Thread Lars Nooden
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Any thoughts on Ubuntu decision dropping OpenOffice.org from the standard REMIX edition? Alexandro, do you have an authoritative link describing the problem? It could be a page showing the changes or explaining their alleged motives. /Lars

Re: [marketing] Ubuntu Remix droping OpenOffice.org

2010-02-07 Thread Lars Nooden
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Well a simple google search will give you many posts about it. Yes, but not authoritative ones, mostly just yammering. but you can read it here: http://digitizor.com/2010/02/05/openoffice-dropped-from-ubuntu-netbook-edition-10-04/ Thanks. The nastiness in the

Re: [marketing] OpenOffice Pro 2010

2010-02-02 Thread Lars Nooden
Roger, Roger Parsley wrote: I recently purchased ... What are the contact details for the shop you purchased it from? Regards, /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands,

Re: [marketing] sponsor for phone conference service

2010-02-01 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: If no one has real objections, I'll take their offer, which will save us some sorrows. :-) +1 If you have the functional requirements or specifications for the system, post the link so that we can continue to track options. /Lars

Re: [marketing] OOo showcard - idea by Christine Beems

2010-01-25 Thread Lars Nooden
Bernhard Dippold wrote: But these cards don't really need to show the same question in every case (even in one language I could imagine different showcards for different target groups). The main graphical elements should stay nevertheless. There may be very little that can be re-used in the

Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-24 Thread Lars Nooden
WorldLabel.com wrote: Yes, at somepoint we got to try and reach out to the larger corporate sponsors so this can happen. Are there any contacts with companies that support or maintain or train Evergreen, Koha or Greenstone? Those are FOSS integrated library systems. It would makes sense to

Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-24 Thread Lars Nooden
WorldLabel.com wrote: Open Access is a popular movement amongst many Librarians and getting stronger. It is obvious that the dominant Office Suite restricts Open Access. This might be one point/theme we would want to put emphasis on. Or that OOo and ODF enable OpenAccess. The written

Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-24 Thread Lars Nooden
WorldLabel.com wrote: In general, I believe we would have better success pitching the adoption of OOo at the conference to poorer rural libraries that visit the booth, than large ones with huge IT teams i.e. NY Public library The larger urban libraries would probably benefit most from OOo.

Re: [marketing] American Library Association 2010 Annual Conference

2010-01-21 Thread Lars Nooden
Drew Jensen wrote: Christine Louise Beems wrote: Hey Drew... re: someone that will take responsibility for the 'content' we want on those computer screens I will participate with content development (graphic design, promotional copy, marketing materials/strategy) however I may be useful and

Re: [marketing] newslet...@marketing.openoffice.org mailing list

2010-01-17 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hello, my perception is that the newslet...@marketing.openoffice.org mailing list isn't widely used anymore. It was dedicated to the compilation for the newsletter and for sending news clippings to. I suggest to use the d...@marketing mailing list for that and

Re: [marketing] Another one bytes the dust :-)

2010-01-15 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: these are excellent news, congratulations and thanks for sharing! I'm a bit hesitant of twittering this, as Google is quite prominently mentioned there... What to say? They seem to use Google's services to be able to remove MS Exchange. They could run Kolab or

Re: [marketing] Re: [OOoCon2009] draft: OOoCon 2011 CfL

2010-01-13 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: I'm still a bit hesitant. Not many people showed their interest in a virtual-only conference. Make it an online conference rather than a virtual one. Virtual=not real. We want real communication, with real people. Plus in marketing, we should be aware of how some

Re: [marketing] OpenOffice complaints from Danish Students

2010-01-13 Thread Lars Nooden
Christine Louise Beems wrote: I suspected that an MS-employee had seeded this 'complaint' before I read Leif's synopsis of what had transpired. That was my first impression as well. It's also my second and subsequent impressions, having given it some thought over the last few days. I would

Re: [marketing] Great news: NRK (Norwegian TV) goes OpenOffice.org :-)

2010-01-10 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: ... Is there also an English article available? ... http://nrkbeta.no/2010/01/08/openoffice/ Approximate, loose, unofficial translation with errors: === NRK Rolls out OpenOffice By Øyvind Solstad - 8 january 2010 Starting on 1 March 2010 all computers in use by

Re: [marketing] funding request for stand crew FOSDEM 2010

2010-01-08 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: ... I guess we're better off with other gimmicks like t-shirts and asking for donations. :-) T-shirts would be good, I'd like one myself, but only if the risk is manageable and it can be avoided to tie too much funding up in inventory. Stickers might be convenient,

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Lars, - People who had been invited to this meeting and can not attend are able to join via voice conferencing and/or Skype. Skype =! VoIP. One of the marketing or development goals for 2010, should be a voice infrastructure to go with the mailing list

Re: [marketing] funding request for stand crew FOSDEM 2010

2010-01-08 Thread Lars Nooden
Juergen Schmidt wrote: for the FOSDEM this is already done and the production is ongoing because the request for the shirts was last year before Christmas. And it was for my understanding already approved. Excellent. What kind of lead time would another run need, if needed? The sales at

Re: [marketing] Proposed change of Marketing Project Lead

2010-01-07 Thread Lars Nooden
John McCreesh wrote: Those of you with long memories may remember that Jacqueline asked me to become co-lead of the Marketing Project in April 2004. ... So, I would ask you all to confirm whether you are happy to endorse this change of Lead, and if so, please welcome Florian and give him

Re: [marketing] marketing blog

2010-01-07 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: ... As the marketing blog is considered an official part of the marketing project, thus representing OOo, we should put more efforts into it. ... I'm in favor of archiving the current entries and shutting the blog down until we have something that is much more

Re: [marketing] countdown to 10 year celebration

2010-01-07 Thread Lars Nooden
Also, 10/10/10 will be on this year's calendar, just a few days before the official 10-year event. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail:

[marketing] UK Joint Information Systems Committee

2010-01-04 Thread Lars Nooden
The UK Joint Information Systems Committee could be interested in deploying OpenOffice.org nationally: Our longer term commitments to the open agenda will also be maintained, including open source, Open Access, open educational resources, and supporting open research

Re: [marketing] countdown to 10 year celebration

2010-01-03 Thread Lars Nooden
Hamish Bell wrote: Something to think about Oct 13 ... it is a Wednesday - will many people be able to make it on a Wednesday, being a working day etc. For many, that is an advantage, because that allows travel paid by the employer to also take place on working days. /Lars

Re: [marketing] OOo Pamphlet?

2009-12-13 Thread Lars Nooden
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Get it from here: http://alexandro.biz/ooo-main-logo-2col-trans.png What are the specs for that image? It would be useful to know the official colors either as RGB or pantone. Same for the font (ie. typeface, size and style)

Re: [marketing] Design ideas/slogan ...

2009-12-13 Thread Lars Nooden
Christine Louise Beems wrote: If this Open Government directive is applicable to OOo, then a great opportunity could be to do our own news release (as immediately as possible), something like: OOo Community Ready to Meet Obama's Open Government' Directive -- The OOo Community announced today

Re: [marketing] ODF desktop icons for OOo

2009-12-12 Thread Lars Nooden
Christine Louise Beems wrote: Do I understand correctly here that ultimately a web browser type utility will be capable to open different document formats...? Thanks. ~Christine That would be one way to have a universal ODF viewer. There have been generic XML/SGML browsers in the past and the

Re: [marketing] Design ideas/slogan ...

2009-12-11 Thread Lars Nooden
John McCreesh wrote: Agreed. It's also a number that we have hard evidence for, and which we can prove significantly understates the true figure - http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer_faq.html John, can that be leveraged to bring to contact either the Sunlight Foundation or the

Re: [marketing] Design ideas/slogan ...

2009-12-09 Thread Lars Nooden
Ian wrote: I think the 100 million downloads is an excellent focus. I used it recently at a trade conference and you could see the jaws drop. Most people still don't see OOo as that big. We need to capitalise on such things. The exact details are less important than the central message that

Re: [marketing] Re: [ux-discuss] marketing discussion on ODF document icons - summary

2009-12-08 Thread Lars Nooden
. So keeping a distinction between ODF and OOo remains essential. However, my comment regarding branding is that the branding, for our set, not be third place. It was said better by yourself and John McCreesh. skeptic notes by Peter Junge (OOo is not equal ODF.) and Lars Nooden (Project should

Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org shortlisted for Best Online News Releases 2009 award

2009-11-26 Thread Lars Nooden
John McCreesh wrote: http://www.prweb.com/pr/best-online-news-releases-2009.html Congratulations. What where the evaluation criteria for the selection? /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org

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