Re: Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-15 Thread lauder-g-j
> > From: Christian Einfeldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/02/15 Tue AM 11:37:45 GMT+13:00 > To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org > CC: Jonathon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing. > > On Sunday 13 February 2005 22:

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-14 Thread Ian
Ian --- Christian Einfeldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Christian Einfeldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:14:39 -0800 To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Cc: Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing. On Sunday 13 February 2005 20:51

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-14 Thread Graham Lauder
Adam Moore wrote: Moodle would be an excellent one. I am somewhat heavily involved with moodle in my school district. I would be happy to help represent them if that was needed. But I know that it has a good following and they probably could get some representatives. So a CD containing Moodle,

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-14 Thread Ian
> In Dallas > airport there was a big sign saying Windows, Unix, Linux. Could you please describe that sign? did you get pics? Sign was in a prominent place for people coming of the plane in letters about 2 feet tall (Black on a Green background I think) I didn't get time to take a pictu

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-14 Thread Christian Einfeldt
On Sunday 13 February 2005 22:59, Jonathon Blake wrote: > Graham wrote: > > For me set me up a booth at a Microsoft conference, nothing > > like selling Fire Extinguishers to the Devil. Now that would > > be fun. :) > > Do you want to give OOo to a bunch of microsofties? Yes! > > >each parte

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-14 Thread Christian Einfeldt
On Sunday 13 February 2005 20:41, Ian wrote: > I'll read Bhaskar's book, but I'll do better than that, I'll get > a lot of other people to read it. After all I'm a connector and a > salesman :-) Heh. > > I agree with what you say about supply side players. Actually, it was Bhaskar saying that.

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-14 Thread Christian Einfeldt
On Sunday 13 February 2005 20:51, Ian wrote: > Actually I have the FLOSSIE (Free Libre and OpenSource Software > in Education) conference to organise in may and it will be INGOT > sponsored so INGOTs will be quite high profile there. I hope it > won't take us 5 years to have a fully fledged confere

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-14 Thread Daniel Carrera
Adam Moore wrote: > On second thought maybe that would be too much. I'm starting to think > focusing on openoffice would be better towards the cause. +1 Cheers, -- Daniel Carrera | I don't want it perfect, Join OOoAuthors today! | I want it Tuesday. http://oooauthors.org | --

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-14 Thread Adam Moore
> > Moodle would be an excellent one. I am somewhat heavily involved with > moodle in my school district. I would be happy to help represent them > if that was needed. But I know that it has a good following and they > probably could get some representatives. So a CD containing Moodle, > OpenO

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-14 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Graham Lauder wrote: Also a small conference pack that would sell for a minimal cost that could include cd or dvd and a small booklet with a basic intro to OOo and with pointers to Jeans book and other OOo publications perhaps, could help defray costs. I plan to produce a small booklet through t

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-14 Thread Adam Moore
> I'm not sure as to having boxes running OOo in place for people to play > with as I doubt there will be the time considering the likely volume of > people, but having said that, what proportion of the 15,000 would be > likely be IT teachers who would most likely want to play. > I hope very few a

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-14 Thread Graham Lauder
Ian wrote: I have sent for information. There is an outside chance I could get some UK Government support. If so I'll pay for a booth, but I can't promise anything at this stage. Regards, What sort of resources would we need to front up to a conf of this size. 15,000 participants, probably hi

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Jonathon Blake
Graham wrote: > For me set me up a booth at a Microsoft conference, nothing like selling Fire > Extinguishers to the Devil. Now that would be fun. :) Do you want to give OOo to a bunch of microsofties? >each parted with a little bit of cash,probably less than their daily coffee budget we c

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Ian
e: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:58:44 -0800 To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing. Alright here's a conference that I would be willing to guarantee to attend. It might be our best bet in getting a wide educational audience at least in the United

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Graham Lauder
Adam Moore wrote: Alright here's a conference that I would be willing to guarantee to attend. It might be our best bet in getting a wide educational audience at least in the United States. NEA is a national organization. There will be at least 13,000 educators at this conference. I think that i

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Adam Moore
Alright here's a conference that I would be willing to guarantee to attend. It might be our best bet in getting a wide educational audience at least in the United States. NEA is a national organization. There will be at least 13,000 educators at this conference. I think that it comes at a time

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Ian
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:50:57 -0800 To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Cc: Graham Lauder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing. > Think about it. In five years or possibly less we'll be > attending INGOT

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Ian
I'll read Bhaskar's book, but I'll do better than that, I'll get a lot of other people to read it. After all I'm a connector and a salesman :-) I agree with what you say about supply side players. In Dallas airport there was a big sign saying Windows, Unix, Linux. I doubt Linux would have featu

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Graham Lauder
Daniel Carrera wrote: Graham Lauder wrote: I didn't say we should not have a presence at linux confs, just that we should not do it to the detriment of other types of conferences. But you see, the message I got (and I believe others got) from your post was that you were saying that linux

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Adam Moore
Example would be the CUE conference in March. www.cue.org Adam - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Adam Moore
> > Some examples of the sort of thing: Educators conferences, > > especially ICT is a great fit, educators are always having > > conferences. > > There are lots of these educator and gov cons. Were I not so busy > with the film and diyParts.org, I would have already sought out > those cons and

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Christian Einfeldt
snip... > But these are the ones we need to catch. Educate the educators > and we enter the consciousness of one of Christiansens Here are two websites for Christensen. Note the spelling. http://www.claytonchristensen.com http://www.innosight.com > groups of > overshot customers, children

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Christian Einfeldt
On Sunday 13 February 2005 08:55, Ian wrote: > I think that these conferences are changing and it fits the > models of tipping points and disruption. +1 In addition to Gladwell and Christensen, one other theorist who sheds light on the importance of cons is Bhaskar Chakravorti. His book, The

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Christian Einfeldt
> Some examples of the sort of thing: Educators conferences, > especially ICT is a great fit, educators are always having > conferences. There are lots of these educator and gov cons. Were I not so busy with the film and diyParts.org, I would have already sought out those cons and tried to ge

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Christian Einfeldt
> Think about it. In five years or possibly less we'll be > attending INGOTs conferences. :D +1 That is both true, and amusing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
Graham Lauder wrote: > I didn't say we should not have a presence at linux confs, just that we > should not do it to the detriment of other types of conferences. But you see, the message I got (and I believe others got) from your post was that you were saying that linux confs were not particula

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Graham Lauder
Daniel Carrera wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 12:08:29PM -0500, Jason Faulkner wrote: It is imperative for OOo to have a presence -- a strong one -- at these conferences. If for no other reason than for us to collaborate with other open source projects. All the things Jean + Ian said about tippi

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Graham Lauder
Jason Faulkner wrote: It is imperative for OOo to have a presence -- a strong one -- at these conferences. If for no other reason than for us to collaborate with other open source projects. All the things Jean + Ian said about tipping points are very true as well -- but I think it's important not t

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Graham Lauder
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Graham Lauder wrote, I am somewhat unsure as to the value that the Linux Confs other than a time to refresh ones energy from a gathering of similarly impassioned people. OOo is pretty much a given in Linux circles. Virtually all the Linux distributions come with

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 10:29:24AM -0800, Ian wrote: > Seriously, I never know what I'm going to get from one of these things before > I go but its always worth while. A partnership with between the Linux > Professional Institute and INGOTs is now a real possibility which wouldn't > have happen

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 12:08:29PM -0500, Jason Faulkner wrote: > It is imperative for OOo to have a presence -- a strong one -- at > these conferences. If for no other reason than for us to collaborate > with other open source projects. All the things Jean + Ian said about > tipping points are ver

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Ian
2005 12:08:29 -0500 To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing. It is imperative for OOo to have a presence -- a strong one -- at these conferences. If for no other reason than for us to collaborate with other open source projects. All

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Jason Faulkner
It is imperative for OOo to have a presence -- a strong one -- at these conferences. If for no other reason than for us to collaborate with other open source projects. All the things Jean + Ian said about tipping points are very true as well -- but I think it's important not to discount the value o

Re: [Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Ian
o are most persuasive. Make these people a priority in transferring the OpenOffice.org message. --- Jean Hollis Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jean Hollis Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 02:38:19 +1000 To: dev@marketing.openoffice.org Subject: [Marketing] Con

[Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Graham Lauder wrote, >>I am somewhat unsure as to the value that the Linux Confs other than a time to refresh ones energy from a gathering of similarly impassioned people. OOo is pretty much a given in Linux circles. Virtually all the Linux distributions come with OOo as part of the bundle so whil

[Marketing] Conferences and marketing.

2005-02-13 Thread Graham Lauder
It does not replace ongoing marketing activities that are happening and need to happen. For example, ensuring that those that are attending conferences have the material they need, I'd like to address that one. Except for the CDs, and the INGOTs stuff that Ian Lynch brought, *nothing* at th