Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-23 Thread Andy Jefferson
JDO is not bad, but JPOX has proven to be less then robust. Sometime ago I joined this list to provide an easier a communication channel for solving continuum/jpox issues and besides a few emails no one has ever requested any help on issues neither gave any feedback. JPOX is the only

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-23 Thread Jesse McConnell
well, I believe a lot of the 'less then robust' stem from a couple of things we ran into last summer doing some related work. (at least for me, others may vary) I know joakim talked to erik some about the issues we ran into with plexus-security at the time (now plexus-redback). For those

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-09 Thread Trygve Laugstøl
Carlos Sanchez wrote: On 1/2/07, Rahul Thakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: continuum-dev@maven.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0 I've been thinking stay

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-08 Thread Rahul Thakur
- Original Message - From: Rahul Thakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: continuum-dev@maven.apache.org Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0 snip Having said all of that, my vote (which no one need care about, since I haven't had much time

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-08 Thread Carlos Sanchez
On 1/2/07, Rahul Thakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: continuum-dev@maven.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0 I've been thinking stay with JDO for now, look at JPA

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-07 Thread Rahul Thakur
snip Having said all of that, my vote (which no one need care about, since I haven't had much time to actually contribute code here) is to support hibernate with slight abstraction on top of it (modeled on JPA's entity manager), so we get the benefits of transparent persistence without

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-03 Thread Erik Bengtson
Quoting Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: JDO is not bad, but JPOX has proven to be less then robust. Sometime ago I joined this list to provide an easier a communication channel for solving continuum/jpox issues and besides a few emails no one has ever requested any help on issues neither gave

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-03 Thread Jesse McConnell
its not just jpox in continuum but also the jpox usage in the plexus-security rbac and user management stores that joakim worked through a couple of months back while consulting with you I think. Joakim can explain more on that if he likes. I just remember that we had a mess of issues in getting

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-03 Thread Rahul Thakur
Hi Erik, I am playing around refactoring some store stuff using jdo and ibatis on a separate branch (key-refactoring) and welcome any help i can get with JDO :-). I am usually on #continuum on IRC (irc.codehaus.org), or happy to join jpox lists. Cheers, Rahul Erik Bengtson wrote: Quoting

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-03 Thread Brett Porter
On 03/01/2007, at 4:29 PM, Rahul Thakur wrote: I am not sure what you refer to by: [snip] The way Continuum is designed means you get to a certain point where you want to save an object and you find that you can't, or you aren't saving everything you want, etc. [/snip] Could you please

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-02 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
Yeah. But to have truly pluggable persistence, then we end up having to pick LCD features. For isntance, if we want JDO, iBatis, and JPA/Hibernate as possible approaches, then our design has to pretty much ignore transparent relationship manifestation that JPA/hibernate/Toplink provide.

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-02 Thread Christian Edward Gruber
Sorry, I was writing my post when this came in. I'm in general agreement, and while I do think moving to something more than JDO is important, Brett is right, the use of hte store could use a good audit and re-factor. Probably some of the problems of strange access approaches used currently

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-02 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 2 Jan 07, at 10:59 PM 2 Jan 07, Brett Porter wrote: I've been thinking stay with JDO for now, look at JPA in the long term. I think anyone who wanted to look at an iBatis store I say go for it. JDO is not bad, but JPOX has proven to be less then robust. If we were using Kodo it

[discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-02 Thread Rahul Thakur
These buzzwords have been making rounds on IRC and dev list :-), and after slight digging around I found a reference to a similar discussion here: http://www.mail-archive.com/ibatis-user-java@incubator.apache.org/msg01251.html Agreed that the store implementation for Continuum should be

Re: [discuss] iBatis, JPA and Java 5.0

2007-01-02 Thread Brett Porter
I've been thinking stay with JDO for now, look at JPA in the long term. I haven't used iBatis, and would be happy to hear some practical experience from people who have. I tend to think of it as a more productive JDBC, as opposed to the different programming model of JDO/Hibernate/JPA.