On Dec 18, 2007 6:58 PM, Maarten Bosteels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 18, 2007 10:47 AM, Julien Vermillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:32:41 +0100 > > Emmanuel Lecharny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Trustin, > > > > > > I think that everybody should keep calm and peaceful. What are we > > > discussing about ? A logging framework and nothing else. > > > > > > As you said, you have added a page explaining how to use SLF4J with > > > MINA and another project. It works, it is simple, and you have added > > > the full howto. So what is the problem? Does someone will trade off > > > against MINA just because he has 'problem' with slf4j when we _know_ > > > that slf4j is not a problem at all? come on ... Adding 2 jars in a > > > classpath is a good price to pay for benefit from MINA. > > > > > > > Hi Emmanuel, > > I think everybody understood your point. I think everybody agree here > > for say slf4j is really not a problem. The idea is to give some > > solution for the people who can't live with another dependency that > > will look 'ugly' in their classpath (I know you think it's stupid :D). > > > > So that why releasing a patchset for them, or a mina.jar bundled with > > slf4j-nop will be fine and will hurt nobody. > > Question remains if the MINA team should try to solve this, since we > all agree that there is no problem with SLF4J ? > I hope we're not sending out the wrong message about SLF4J by creating > such a tool ? > > I think a lot of people (including me) would really like to see a > massive adoption of SLF4J by other projects (instead of JCL) > so that the entire java community can stop wasting time discussing > logging frameworks :-p > Of course, it's not MINA's task to promote SLF4J but at least we > should give it the credit it deserves.
Well, it will also help adoption of SLF4J because the tool will provide a mean to convert Log4J code to SLF4J code. It will just give some freedom of choice. So it also can be a weapon to help SLF4J to rule the world of logging. :) Trustin -- what we call human nature is actually human habit -- http://gleamynode.net/ -- PGP Key ID: 0x0255ECA6