Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-12 Thread xinfan meng
How about a Capricorn: mixed, cool and easily recognized. On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 at 11:24, xinfan meng wrote: > Not sure about changing name. But for branding, how about designing a > mascot? No other frameworks have one yet. > On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 at 23:01, Anirudh wrote: > >> Release naming sounds

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-12 Thread xinfan meng
Not sure about changing name. But for branding, how about designing a mascot? No other frameworks have one yet. On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 at 23:01, Anirudh wrote: > Release naming sounds like a great idea. But we would need this for the > minor releases too, since many of our customers seem to be switc

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Anirudh
Release naming sounds like a great idea. But we would need this for the minor releases too, since many of our customers seem to be switching between different minor releases. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Chris Olivier wrote: > Ha! good one, Ly! > Let's not forget, though, a high percentage o

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Chris Olivier
Ha! good one, Ly! Let's not forget, though, a high percentage of us know who Sean Combs is. I couldn't tell you one of his songs, his name changes were a differentiator. Makes me think of something -- still another possibility could be the naming of major releases. Like Android does, for instance.

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Ly Nguyen
I agree with comments on not breaking momentum by rebranding the name. It's also my first time hearing about the pronunciation being "mixnet" and not "m-x-net" so that clarification, along with the motivation behind the name, feature parity, would strengthen the brand more. To that point, Sean Com

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Barber, Christopher
Yes, I think it is kind of late to try to get people to say "mix-net" and it makes it seem like yet another complex technology that no one even knows how to pronounce (e.g. LaTeX). Most English speakers are going to say "em-ex-net". If you really want people to say "mix-net" then you should spel

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Chris Olivier
Well, I suppose for a sufficiently cool name, you could go like CoolName-MXNet for awhile and then transition just into CoolName. Like how Johnny Cougar transitioned into John Melloncamp back in the 80’s by transitioning through “John Cougar Melloncamp” and then eventually dropping the “Cougar”. J

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Rahul Huilgol
Even changing the pronunciation is not an easy thing to do IMHO. As someone who has been working on MXNet for the last 8 months, this thread is the first time I am reading that MXNet is supposed to be pronounced 'mix-net'. We risk losing the momentum even if we try to steer the pronunciation toward

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Aaron Markham
Changing branding is hard as we already have some momentum under the current name. It's not impossible, and if someone has a fantastic idea and marketing plan for it, it's worth considering. Aside from that, updating the pronunciation could be useful if you like having those gif vs jif debates, bu

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Chris Olivier
Just curious why you think it’s a bad idea — you didn’t say? On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:49 PM Chen HY wrote: > At least people needs a way to speak it. > Just define its pronunciation as "mix-net" or "m-x-net" and use the agreed > one everywhere helps a lot. > Changing name is a bad idea. > > 20

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Chen HY
At least people needs a way to speak it. Just define its pronunciation as "mix-net" or "m-x-net" and use the agreed one everywhere helps a lot. Changing name is a bad idea. 2018-04-11 20:29 GMT+01:00 Mu Li : > Agree that MXNet, the combination of Minerva and CXXNet, which can be > interpreted as

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Mu Li
Agree that MXNet, the combination of Minerva and CXXNet, which can be interpreted as mixed-net, is hard to be pronounced. But rebranding a name is a very big decision. We need a very carefully designed marketing plan for it. A choice is that we can gradually refer MXNet as a backend, and talk more

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Thomas DELTEIL
FWIW Brainscript is actually a network definition language: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cognitive-toolkit/BrainScript-Network-Builder Thomas 2018-04-11 12:13 GMT-07:00 Chiyuan Zhang : > IIRC CNTK renamed to something like brainscript which does not seem to be > very successful publicity

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Chiyuan Zhang
IIRC CNTK renamed to something like brainscript which does not seem to be very successful publicity campaign? Chiyuan On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:18 AM Chris Olivier wrote: > Should we consider renaming MXNet to something more "friendly"? > > IMHO, I think this may be related to adoption problem

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Barber, Christopher
While the name could be better, I would instead focus on (1) making mxnet much more extensible (e.g. support ability to dynamically load operators from external shared libraries), (2) feature parity with tensorflow, (3) support for non-NVIDIA GPUs, (4) clearly demonstrating and publicizing bette

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Singh, Rajan
I agree with Anirudh about the confusion with the name. Also, if someone hasn’t heard about "MXNet" , they could confuse it with another model like "AlexNet", "GoogleNet" Not sure about the feasibility of doing it at this point . On 4/11/18, 11:10 AM, "Anirudh" wrote: Hi Chris,

Re: MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Anirudh
Hi Chris, In my opinion, the problem with MXNet is the way it is pronounced. I think this leads to confusion, as I have seen people unaware of the fw from before, grasp it as "Amexnet". The way it was supposed to be pronounced "mixnet" sounded like a good name to me. I am not sure why the i in the

MXNet Name Change?

2018-04-11 Thread Chris Olivier
Should we consider renaming MXNet to something more "friendly"? IMHO, I think this may be related to adoption problems. MXNet, CMTK -- both seem sort of sterile and hard to use, don't they? Tensorflow, PyTorch, Caffe -- sound cool.