Re: Loggers in API Components

2005-12-15 Thread Shane Bryzak
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 13:10 +1300, Simon Kitching wrote: Can we please not get sidetracked from the core issues? They are: * should we do logging via a MyFaces logging api, to avoid direct dependencies between lots of MyFaces classes and *any* external logging library? * are external depen

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-847) NPE w/ UpdateActionListener when @property is Serializable

2005-12-15 Thread Dennis Byrne (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-847?page=comments#action_12360555 ] Dennis Byrne commented on MYFACES-847: -- Someone may want to close this, as the exception can be avoided by configuring a Converter. > NPE w/ UpdateActionListener when

Re: Loggers in API Components

2005-12-15 Thread Simon Kitching
Can we please not get sidetracked from the core issues? They are: * should we do logging via a MyFaces logging api, to avoid direct dependencies between lots of MyFaces classes and *any* external logging library? * are external dependencies allowed in the API jarfile? Once we sort those out,

[jira] Created: (MYFACES-955) Add to NavigationMenu.

2005-12-15 Thread Dave (JIRA)
Add to NavigationMenu. -- Key: MYFACES-955 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-955 Project: MyFaces Type: New Feature Components: Tomahawk Versions: 1.1.1 Environment: Windows XP, JBoss 4.0.3SP1 Reporter: Da

Re: svn commit: r356552 - in /incubator/tobago/trunk: src/site/fml/faq.fml tobago-theme/tobago-theme-richmond/pom.xml

2005-12-15 Thread Martin Marinschek
Never mind! You are right again, MyFaces doesn't solve the problems as powerful and easy as facelets do. What we have in place are mere work-arounds. In fact, Jacob should take up the 4 points you mentioned and put it right up on the facelets webpage. With that in place, we'll have less misunders

[jira] Created: (MYFACES-954) does not work inside

2005-12-15 Thread Dave (JIRA)
does not work inside --- Key: MYFACES-954 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-954 Project: MyFaces Type: Bug Components: Tomahawk Versions: Nightly Environment: Windows XP, JBoss 4.0.3 SP1 R

Re: Loggers in API Components

2005-12-15 Thread Travis Reeder
That looks like a very interesting option, I really like the formatted way of showing the messages and the simple runtime jar swap to switch implementations.TravisOn 12/15/05, Shane Bryzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about using SLF4J?  (http://www.slf4j.org/)  For anyone that doesn'

[jira] Created: (MYFACES-953) InputHtml content disappear on IE and cover buttons below on Mozilla

2005-12-15 Thread Dave (JIRA)
InputHtml content disappear on IE and cover buttons below on Mozilla Key: MYFACES-953 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-953 Project: MyFaces Type: Bug Components: Tomahawk Ve

Re: Loggers in API Components

2005-12-15 Thread Shane Bryzak
How about using SLF4J?  (http://www.slf4j.org/)  For anyone that doesn't know what this is, here's an excerpt from the site: "The Simple Logging Facade for Java or (SLF4J) is intended to serve as a simple facade for various logging APIs allowing to the end-user to plug in the desired implement

Re: Loggers in API Components

2005-12-15 Thread Simon Kitching
Hi Mario, Mario Ivankovits wrote: Why wouldnt you create this wrapper library under the umbrella of commns-logging? Different commons-logging libraries using static linking instead of the dynamic behaviour. Say: commons-logging-log4j, commons-logging-jdklogger This sort of thing is under *co

Re: Loggers in API Components

2005-12-15 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 12/14/05, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,I've had a go at building a logging lib as required. However I'verealized something to do with dependencies that I think is rather important.It's a known rule that no new classes can be added to the " javax.faces"namespace. More precisely, n

Re: Loggers in API Components

2005-12-15 Thread Adam Winer
I'd also be very curious to hear why additional dependencies are verboten. I agree that depending on JDK 1.4 would break compliance, but can't see anything else being an issue. -- Adam On 12/15/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I am meaning this very small logging wrapper

Re: svn commit: r356552 - in /incubator/tobago/trunk: src/site/fml/faq.fml tobago-theme/tobago-theme-richmond/pom.xml

2005-12-15 Thread Adam Winer
On 12/14/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ;) > > Jacob, > > I don't want to start a war here. period ;) > > I am just playing ping-pong to Adam's style, which he sometimes > deserves... or - put in another way - I don't want MyFaces to loose > half its community due to insulted co

[jira] Updated: (MYFACES-952) Tree2: allow application event on expand

2005-12-15 Thread Ricardo Tercero Lozano (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-952?page=all ] Ricardo Tercero Lozano updated MYFACES-952: --- Attachment: tree2.rar > Tree2: allow application event on expand > > > Key: MYFACES-952

[jira] Created: (MYFACES-952) Tree2: allow application event on expand

2005-12-15 Thread Ricardo Tercero Lozano (JIRA)
Tree2: allow application event on expand Key: MYFACES-952 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-952 Project: MyFaces Type: Improvement Components: Tomahawk Versions: 1.1.1 Reporter: Ricardo Tercero

[jira] Created: (MYFACES-951) Can't remove Label bar tx:in

2005-12-15 Thread Olexandr Zakordonskyy (JIRA)
Can't remove Label bar tx:in Key: MYFACES-951 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-951 Project: MyFaces Type: Bug Components: Tobago Reporter: Olexandr Zakordonskyy Can't remove gray bar before input if label attrib

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-857) Duplicate id in subview

2005-12-15 Thread Beat Seeliger (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-857?page=comments#action_12360506 ] Beat Seeliger commented on MYFACES-857: --- Do you use tiles or some conditional tags? I had the same effect and resolved the problem by defined the id for each JSF tags

Re: Loggers in API Components

2005-12-15 Thread Martin Marinschek
Yes, I am meaning this very small logging wrapper that Simon wrote. I don't see any problem in relying on this. How did Ed argue that additional dependencies would make you loose spec-compliancy? Is it put down somewhere in the spec? Can you post a short summary of your discussion? regards, Ma

RE: Loggers in API Components

2005-12-15 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KBSA 21\)
The possibility to be without the dependency is only important if we want to stay spec-compliant. A discussion with Ed Burns (on the chat) showed that requiring additional dependencies makes you loose that compliancy, if it were judged in a restricitve way. BUT he indicated that such a logger-dep

Re: Loggers in API Components

2005-12-15 Thread Martin Marinschek
I still think it is OK to depend on another jar from the jsf-api.jar. Adam Winer has already stated that he would think so, too. Any objections? regards, Martin On 12/15/05, Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mario > > I think it is because in this way (having this logger

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-255) inputDate's onchange, onfocus, onblur and onselect are not working

2005-12-15 Thread sean schofield (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-255?page=comments#action_12360502 ] sean schofield commented on MYFACES-255: Which version are you using. There is a 1.1.0 release which *already* includes this patch. Have you tried this version? >

Re: Tomahawk and JSF RI

2005-12-15 Thread Sean Schofield
These kinds of questions are best discussed on the user list. There is also a much larger group of people there who can help with your question. sean On 12/13/05, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which tomcat are you using? > > > > On 12/13/05, Dennis Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

RE: Loggers in API Components

2005-12-15 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KBSA 21\)
Hi Mario I think it is because in this way (having this logger-abstraction in the myfaces-jars) it is possible to eliminate the runtime-dependency on commons-logging in an easier way. If, as deployer, I do not want commons-logging in the container, at most I write two dummy-classes which replace

[jira] Created: (MYFACES-950) Missing singlequote in javascript codegeneration

2005-12-15 Thread Andrej Konkow (JIRA)
Missing singlequote in javascript codegeneration Key: MYFACES-950 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-950 Project: MyFaces Type: Bug Components: Tomahawk Environment: tomcat, jdk5 Reporter: Andre

Re: [jira] Commented: (MYFACES-919) JSF's component not functioning properly after clicking Browser's Back Button .

2005-12-15 Thread Naveen Modi
Hi Simon, The solution seems to be working fine. Thanks & Regards, Naveen Modi. - Original Message - From: "Simon Kitching (JIRA)" To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:58 AM Subject: [jira] Commented: (MYFACES-919) JSF's component not functioning properly after c