Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-30 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi eduardo, if so: please file the corresponding jira-ticket/s. regards, gerhard http://www.irian.at Your JSF/JavaEE powerhouse - JavaEE Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces 2013/10/30 Contrib gcont...@cibinetonline.com There

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-30 Thread Scott O'Bryan
Hey guys, I understand some of the frustration, but MyFaces 2.1 and Trinidad 2.0 is an invalid configuration.  Why would a release of Trinidad 2.1 (which is designed for JSF 2.1) not solve this issue. --  Scott O'Bryan Sent with Airmail On October 30, 2013 at 1:28:20 AM, Gerhard Petracek

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-30 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi scott, yes - that isn't a big issue (even though the reason for it is quite questionable, if you consider the changes in jsf 2.1). however, i'm more concerned about the implication of the topics i mentioned earlier. regards, gerhard http://www.irian.at Your JSF/JavaEE powerhouse - JavaEE

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-30 Thread Scott O'Bryan
Gerhard and Devs, The problem is there was some 2.1 stuff added to the ExternalContext I believe.  At any rate, I agree with you and I've managed to free up some free time to get a release.  So here is what I suggest: 1) I'm going to begin the release of the Trinidad plugins.  With voting this

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-30 Thread Gerhard Petracek
@ExternalContext: there shouldn't be an issue due to ExternalContextWrapper. in any case +1 for the rest. regards, gerhard http://www.irian.at Your JSF/JavaEE powerhouse - JavaEE Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces 2013/10/30

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-30 Thread Blake Sullivan
That's only if you are wrapping another ExternalContext. If you need to create an ExternalContext out of thin air, then any new abstract methods are a problem. Essentially, the JSF specification made an incompatible api change between JSF 2.0 and 2.1. -- Blake Sullivan On Oct 30, 2013, at

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-30 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi blake, many other libs don't have an issue with using the std. wrapper approach (+ ExternalContextWrapper). - without concrete details we can't follow, since ExternalContextWrapper was introduced for keeping libs as stable/compatible as possible (across spec. revisions). regards, gerhard

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-30 Thread Scott O'Bryan
Gerhard, what he's saying is that we have several cases that require a base implementation.  Mostly they are for cases that are outside of the JSF lifecycle.  It MAY be possible to retrofit these cases with the ExternalContextFactory and the wrapper, but this work hasn't been done yet. -- 

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-30 Thread Blake Sullivan
I assume that the specific issue is when Trinidad is using the ExternalContext as an api to hide Servlet vs. Portlet differences BEFORE the FacesContext is created. In these cases, Trinidad needs to create concrete ExternalContext implementations for Servlets and Portlets. An example of this

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-30 Thread Gerhard Petracek
i guess it's quite specific to trinidad and other libs with similar requirements just use a different approach (and/or abstraction) to do the same. now it's clear what was done (and the reason for it), however, as we see there are clear limitations once you are doing it that way. regards, gerhard

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-29 Thread Contrib
There are some bugfixes on MyFaces 2.1, and projects having Trinidad 2.0 as part of the stack, cannot update it due this. Regards, Eduardo El 28/10/13 10:09, Gerhard Petracek escribió: it isn't only about one release. e.g. 2.1.0 was just skipped and at least a part is broken since months

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-28 Thread Gerhard Petracek
it isn't only about one release. e.g. 2.1.0 was just skipped and at least a part is broken since months (see [1] and [2]). therefore i called this thread trinidad.next instead of trinidad 2.1.1. imo: the current situation isn't acceptable for users. committers who work on trinidad on a regular

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-18 Thread Werner Punz
Am 17.10.13 22:47, schrieb Gerhard Petracek: hi @ all, we haven't seen a trinidad release for almost 20 months. it's known that other projects are based on trinidad and therefore it's obvious that they have to use snapshot versions. imo: since there are commits on a regular basis, there should

Re: [DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-18 Thread Hazem Saleh
+1 for a release too. On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Werner Punz werner.p...@gmail.com wrote: Am 17.10.13 22:47, schrieb Gerhard Petracek: hi @ all, we haven't seen a trinidad release for almost 20 months. it's known that other projects are based on trinidad and therefore it's obvious

[DISCUSS] trinidad.next

2013-10-17 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi @ all, we haven't seen a trinidad release for almost 20 months. it's known that other projects are based on trinidad and therefore it's obvious that they have to use snapshot versions. imo: since there are commits on a regular basis, there should be also releases on a regular basis. regards,