[jira] Created: (MYFACES-1067) Calendar component script events restriction

2006-01-27 Thread Tomas Havelka (JIRA)
Calendar component script events restriction Key: MYFACES-1067 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1067 Project: MyFaces Type: Improvement Components: Tomahawk Versions: 1.1.1 Reporter: Tomas

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-1067) Calendar component script events restriction

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1067?page=comments#action_12364195 ] Martin Marinschek commented on MYFACES-1067: Hi Thomas, the calendar-script has been rewritten completely after 1.1.1. So please check again with the new

Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi all, I'm having ideas again. Must come from too much work with JSF ;) My idea: Bookmarking is a problem with JSF, right? Except you use h:outputLink, but then there's this slight problem with not being in the action system anymore ;) Now, what do I want to be able to see in my history or to

RE: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KBSA 21\)
to put it in a nutshell: add GET-processing to JSF... +100 ;-) regards Alexander -Original Message- From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:35 AM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Bookmarking, History and JSF Hi all, I'm having ideas

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Yes, exactly. JSF - minus complete state-saving + GET-processing + binding into the Navigation-framework of JSF=we don't get people running around calling us names anymore ;) regards, Martin On 1/27/06, Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to put it in a nutshell: add

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Werner Punz
+1000 for a get Martin Marinschek schrieb: Hi all, I'm having ideas again. Must come from too much work with JSF ;) My idea: Bookmarking is a problem with JSF, right? Except you use h:outputLink, but then there's this slight problem with not being in the action system anymore ;)

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! JSF - minus complete state-saving + GET-processing + binding into the Navigation-framework of JSF And then ALLOW_JAVASCRIPT=false will start working again too? Ciao, Mario

RE: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KBSA 21\)
let's hope it will... THAT WOULD BE HYPER-GREAT ;-) -Original Message- From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:58 AM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF Hi! JSF - minus complete state-saving + GET-processing +

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Let's take one step at a time ;) regards, Martin On 1/27/06, Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let's hope it will... THAT WOULD BE HYPER-GREAT ;-) -Original Message- From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:58 AM To:

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Yes, this is the plan. regards, Martin On 1/27/06, Cash, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully this will then render as a complete URL, which will allow search engines to follow the links as well! We currently have to create outputLinks on the page, bypassing the action system, in

Partial Validation / Model Update

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi all, together with Gerald Müllan, I've put the finishing touchs on our partial validation / model update stuff. there is an example under sandbox / subForm.jsp to try it out. Basically, I've done what Adam and Bernd have suggested, and created a new subForm component. Kudos to them for their

[jira] Created: (MYFACES-1068) Incorrect inputCalendar position when placed in DIV tag with position: absolute;

2006-01-27 Thread Pawel Koloszko (JIRA)
Incorrect inputCalendar position when placed in DIV tag with position: absolute; Key: MYFACES-1068 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1068 Project: MyFaces Type: Bug

Re: AW: AW: inputHtml broken in IE?

2006-01-27 Thread Werner Punz
Werner Punz schrieb: Ok since no one answered I felt free to add the dojo lib in a first incarnation (latest 0.2.2) build to the repo. There is a very basic beta integration already done in the effects tag (I am not very happy with it because I had to add the debugging flags in the dojo

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi Now, what do I want to be able to see in my history or to bookmark? I want to bookmark simple pages, where state is not so important at all. Or only a small portion of the state is important... Those simple pages I usually refer to with an action attribute that is put (as a string)

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Here goes the link for that servlet http://tinyurl.com/8dv43 inside of invokeApplication() you could do some stuff w/ ValueBindings to populate your bean. -Matthias On 1/27/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Now, what do I want to be able to see in my history or to

RE: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KBSA 21\)
@Manfred: I guess I saw a ticket in RI stuff for this. What's the EGs plan for enabling bookmarkable URLs ? We could discuss it with Ed Burns this evening in the ##jsf chat. Lately he's online almost every day... regards Alexander

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Werner Punz
Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: Why not rendering a link to a NonFacesRequestServlet ? (like the tobago stuff) Servlet = bad idea needs an additional entry in the web.xml (and just check how many problems the tomahawk extension filter already causes) The obvious place probably would be the

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Servlet = bad idea needs an additional entry in the web.xml (and just check how many problems the tomahawk extension filter already causes) The obvious place probably would be the extension filter (which has to be there anyway) or a phase listener - which would be even better because that

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
We could discuss it with Ed Burns this evening in the ##jsf chat. Lately he's online almost every day... I am not using irc, but maybe I'll install a client. but today (at evening I am traveling) But you could bring out this topic, right ? -Matthias

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
We could optionally do that - don't know if that is practical. I've discussed with Manfred some more, and he suggests to do the following: give t:saveState an optional bookmarkable=true attribute, and with that decide on some of the state to be saved even though the tree-state is lost. we could

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Yes, sounds good. I'm not online this evening, either, but if Jesse can hook-up with Ed on this topic, that would be great. regards, Martin On 1/27/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could discuss it with Ed Burns this evening in the ##jsf chat. Lately he's online almost

RE: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KBSA 21\)
-Original Message- From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:09 PM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF We could discuss it with Ed Burns this evening in the ##jsf chat. Lately he's online almost every

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Just got to make sure i understand the issue completely. It seems that manolito has connected a few times lately as well... manolito == el manfredo ;) BTW: I have a deputy bot running, which gives html-access to IRC even when the corporate firewalls are not liking that ;-) regards

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Alexander Smirnov
Due to navigation caases, you page after GET request may be different from request to request, depend on application state. For bookmarkable links, best case to use redirect navigation options . May be, for such cases best solution will be save/restore request state for redirect, simulate

[jira] Updated: (MYFACES-1034) Allow customisable AddResource implementations

2006-01-27 Thread Peter Mahoney (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1034?page=all ] Peter Mahoney updated MYFACES-1034: --- Attachment: DefaultAddResource.java Attached is an updated version of DefaultAddResource, which makes the xxxInsertPosition instance variables

RE: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Cash, Jamie
If a action resolves to a jsp page and not a method on a backing bean, then there can only be one consequence of that action. In this case, and this case only, it would be useful for faces to render the link as a outputLink by computing the full URL. The page designer, on the other hand should

Nightly problem

2006-01-27 Thread hermod.opstvedt
Hi When running with latest nightly (1.1.2-SNAPSHOT), I get: javax.faces.FacesException: java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host: connect at org.apache.myfaces.config.FacesConfigurator.configure(FacesConfigurator.java:123) This does not happen when I replace them with the

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
D'accord with Jamie on this. regards, Martin On 1/27/06, Cash, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a action resolves to a jsp page and not a method on a backing bean, then there can only be one consequence of that action. In this case, and this case only, it would be useful for faces to

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
outputLink doesn't tie into the action-framework - that's why... what's Struts-Shale doing here? outputLink with defaultAction=something? regards, Martin On 1/27/06, Alexander Smirnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Due to navigation caases, you page after GET request may be different from request

Re: inputSuggestAjax and inputCalendar don't work together in 1.1.2

2006-01-27 Thread Juergen Melzer
Great it works. From: Volker Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MyFaces Development dev@myfaces.apache.org To: MyFaces Development dev@myfaces.apache.org Subject: Re: inputSuggestAjax and inputCalendar don't work together in 1.1.2 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:20:43 +0100 Hi Juergen, the

RE: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KBSA 21\)
@Manfred: I guess I saw a ticket in RI stuff for this. What's the EGs plan for enabling bookmarkable URLs ? Somebody can check for the id (url) of this ticket (being in a workshop I have limited online-possibilities ;-) regards Alexander

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Ed Burns
Gruß Gott, On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:43:23 +0100, Werner Punz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: WP +1000 for a get WP Martin Marinschek schrieb: MM I'm having ideas again. Must come from too much work with JSF ;) MM MM My idea: MM MM Bookmarking is a problem with JSF, right? Except you use

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Manfred Geiler
As Ed noted, saving everything into the GET request does not work because of URL size limitations. Old stagers within the MyFaces community might remember the so called minimizing state feature in early MyFaces 0.x versions. The goal was to provide a JSF implementation that works without

RE: Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread jacob
If you want to go minimal/stateless with JSF, it's somewhat do-able. I was able to take a sandbox of Facelets and simply: 1) Always write an empty hidden input param for 'javax.faces.ViewState' to get the succeeding request to expect a Restored View 2) Within ViewHandler.restoreView(..) call

RE: Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread jacob
I don't think the problem should be solved. No one says that all of your commandLinks need to invoke actions-- you can render normal links. With invoking actions, you posting transitional behavior, with gets, there is not transitional behavior to retain. When you want to bookmark things,

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Gary VanMatre
From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] HiNow, what do I want to be able to see in my history or to bookmark? I want to bookmark simple pages, where state is not so important at all. Or only a small portion of the state is important...Those simple pages I usually refer to with an

Re: Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Well, I think you have to distinct clearly here. The concept of actions which lead to somewhere else is a somewhat widely used concept in web-applications. If you don't call dynamic method-bindings, but you have static action-references, I don't think that you can lump together calling actions

Re: Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Jacob, yes, but I'm talking about being able to pass _some_ state here. So you don't go fully stateless, you have the ability to reduce the state to a size where it is usable with GET-Requests. And I want to use MyFaces t:saveState feature for providing this ability. Together with an error to

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Ed Burns
Hallo Manolito, Wie geht es in Wien? On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:06:26 +0100, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MG As Ed noted, saving everything into the GET request does not work MG because of URL size limitations. Old stagers within the MyFaces MG community might remember the so called

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Ed, danke, in Wien geht's hervorragend ;) you're right, of course. This has to be clearly documented. And indeed, this problem is unsolvable. Manfred has invested a lot of work into MyFaces trying to get this to run somehow by further minimizing the state - but with the restrictions imposed

RE: Re: Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread jacob
Yeah, that's correct, who says ViewState actually has to be your component model? :-) I've thought about progressing the stateless JSF solution to instead just write Seam's converstation ID as the ViewState (a numeric long) to match up to model state. This kind of solution makes a lot more

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Werner Punz
Martin Marinschek schrieb: We could optionally do that - don't know if that is practical. I've discussed with Manfred some more, and he suggests to do the following: give t:saveState an optional bookmarkable=true attribute, and with that decide on some of the state to be saved even though the

Re: Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Gary VanMatre
From: Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jacob, yes, but I'm talking about being able to pass _some_ state here. So you don't go fully stateless, you have the ability to reduce the state to a size where it is usable with GET-Requests. I agreewith youMartin. Why not burn\generate a

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread jacob
How do you explain the user that he's using actions all over the application, and then for his GET needs, he has to provide an url with parameters and other stuff? I don't think it's confusing at all. If anything, I would suggest something like Craig has been bringing up where the requested URI

Re: Re: Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Jacob, Seam's state-saving method is server-side, right? The conversation will be stored on the server? Is that a persistent storage - in the sense of a database, or a volatile storage - in the sense of a server session (ok, I know, server side sessions can be persisted, too;) ? option 1) So

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Werner, You're absolutely right. My could actually meant we must ;) What we could/ do though would be to automatically fail-over to normal state-saving and rendering, if the state grows too large. So we have an error, right, but the app doesn't stop working. The page just isn't bookmarkable

Re: Client-ID

2006-01-27 Thread Adam Winer
On 1/26/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except you render the client-id to the server - transmit it back via an AJAX-request - and now want to lookup the component and do some handling on this component . This cannot currently be done in JSF. Jacob Hookom's Avatar project works

Re: Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Adam Winer
My idea's always been something like an optional NavigationHandler interface: public interface BookmarkableNavigationHandler { /** * Return an URL if the MethodExpression can be handled purely * as a GET request, or null if it cannot be done. */ public String getUrl(FacesContext,

tree2 setNodeSelected()

2006-01-27 Thread Yixing Ma
Hi, the great myfaces users and devs, I really need some help regarding the tree2. I knowI can use t.setNodeSelected() toselect the tree node. And rendering the tree node based on the selection. But how to deselect the tree node? How to refresh the tree to make all the nodes

Re: Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Adam Winer
BTW, a credit-where-it's-due: I should be clear that my idea's always been... completely omits that this idea is very much due to John Fallows! -- Adam On 1/27/06, Adam Winer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My idea's always been something like an optional NavigationHandler interface: public

Re: Client-ID

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Now that's exactly what I try to implement here. A version of find-component working with stamped components like dataTable and tree. What I'm working on: if you give it a rowIndexed clientId (like: :form:data:1:myInput) the findComponent method of tomahawk's extendedDataTable returns (instead of

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread jacob
That's an interesting solution-- with webwork, it allows EL (OGNL) evaluation of URIs, so across the board, we could do something like: navigation-rule from-view-id/foo.jsp/from-view-id navigation-case from-outcomesuccess/from-outcome redirect/

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 1/27/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: outputLink doesn't tie into the action-framework - that's why...what's Struts-Shale doing here? outputLink with defaultAction=something?If you use view controllers in Shale, a GET request will trigger init(), then prerender(), then render your

Re: Re: NamingContainer.SEPARATOR_CHAR

2006-01-27 Thread Adam Winer
My hunch is that you'll never be able to solve this without the components really getting into the picture, and in particular, you have to give stamping components (UIData, etc.) and parents with interesting behavior (the ADF UIXRegion component) a chance to intercept processing. Trying to

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Adam Winer
That only gets you about a third of the way there, since JSF isn't giving you a decent semantic way to generate meaningful GET requests in the first place. -- Adam On 1/27/06, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/27/06, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: outputLink doesn't

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Adam Winer
And once you'd solved this what you'd *really* want on top of this is something in the nav handler that lets you then also deal with the incoming id query attribute that feeds naturally back into JSF component state land instead of forcing you to hardcode logic to implement this. (Seam

Re: Re: NamingContainer.SEPARATOR_CHAR

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Adam, Of course - every component which does something special will need to handle this in its special way. Only the component knows about this stuff in JSF - a component is a blackbox is a blackbox is a blackbox ;) and should handle that. I'm doing exactly that. Wrapping the component into

Re: Client-ID

2006-01-27 Thread Adam Winer
I think this approach will cause pain; even wrapping all the methods (and making sure you implement the appropriate interfaces too, e.g., EditableValueHolder!) and generalizing to support third-party classes and interfaces, etc., etc., you're still going to have problems; how do you remove()

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Yes, I reaaalllyyy want that as well. Matze has already suggested that - we'll have that in our solution ;) regards, Martin On 1/27/06, Adam Winer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And once you'd solved this what you'd *really* want on top of this is something in the nav handler that lets you then

Re: Re: NamingContainer.SEPARATOR_CHAR

2006-01-27 Thread Adam Winer
OK, cool: another thing to look for is a system that falls gracefully back in such a way that not *every* component on the planet that does anything special needs to add such special coding, that is, the default behavior is always correct, and you only need to add additional code to optimize.

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread jacob
Unless I misunderstood-- I've been saying you wouldn't want this though, because now your logic is bound to some assumption of previous state-- where did the id come from, which is bad for GETs. You could pass the id, using EL evaluation of to-view-id, allowing a (separate) view decide how

Re: Re: NamingContainer.SEPARATOR_CHAR

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Yeah, right, we'll see where that takes us... Well, irrrkks stands for - me don't like it either ;) regards, Martin On 1/27/06, Adam Winer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, cool: another thing to look for is a system that falls gracefully back in such a way that not *every* component on the

findComponent now works in dataTables

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi there, I've finished - next to discussing about GET requests in faces ;) - my implementation of findComponent for the tomahawk extended dataTable now. So you can call findComponent to lookup context-aware components inside a dataTable now, go ahead and try it ;) What you'll get back so far

[jira] Created: (MYFACES-1069) inputCalendar ctl2 has no properties

2006-01-27 Thread Sukhada (JIRA)
inputCalendar ctl2 has no properties Key: MYFACES-1069 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-1069 Project: MyFaces Type: Bug Components: Tomahawk Versions: 1.1.1 Environment: Linux Reporter: Sukhada

RE: Re: Client-ID

2006-01-27 Thread jacob
You proabably missed Martin's original take on the ProcessingContext (Perspective is more code friendly ;-), but it would use a callback to allow a single point of decoration for all lifecycle methods: public class Perspective { private final UIComponent target; public

[jira] Commented: (MYFACES-940) ImportCalendar doesn't work in FireFox browser

2006-01-27 Thread Sukhada (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-940?page=comments#action_12364239 ] Sukhada commented on MYFACES-940: - Try adding extension filter in web.xml. http://myfaces.apache.org/tomahawk/extensionsFilter.html ImportCalendar doesn't work in

Re: [maven] issues with publishing master pom

2006-01-27 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 1/27/06, Sean Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still a little fuzzy with the maven publishing requirements. You are not alone... We need to get out stuff into ibiblio. I had read that using 'mvn repository:bundle-create' will generate a bundle that is m2 friendly for deployment.

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Alexander Smirnov
Martin Marinschek wrote: outputLink doesn't tie into the action-framework - that's why... what's Struts-Shale doing here? outputLink with defaultAction=something? regards, Martin In struts, I can perform action for request on any ...do link not only for submitting form, but for ANY

Re: [maven] issues with publishing master pom

2006-01-27 Thread Sean Schofield
The m2 distribution repository is here: http://www.apache.org/dist/maven-repository For some reason the README doesn't show up on the web, but it has instructions for releases to this repository. That's what I thought but all that is there is org/apache/ws. Where are the rest of the

Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread jacob
JSF doesn't have a built-in front controller. If anything, it should be optional, but things like no DB connection are usually handled by global filters/policies and wouldn't be on a per-action basis. The additional lifecycle events that Shale introduces will also be available in JSF 1.2 with

RE: Bookmarking, History and JSF

2006-01-27 Thread Jesse Alexander \(KBSA 21\)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 7:19 PM To: dev@myfaces.apache.org; dev@myfaces.apache.org Subject: Re: Bookmarking, History and JSF Unless I misunderstood-- I've been saying you wouldn't want this though,

[Fwd: Re: Receiving duplicate suggestions in InputSuggestAjax component]

2006-01-27 Thread Volker Weber
Hi *, after looking a bit deeper into this, i can't find any faces-config.xml in sandbox-example in pre maven sources. Also these files are equal except some additions to sandbox after maven reorg. Therefore i think the existence of this file in example is caused by the maven reorg and should