Re: AW: [jira] Created: (EXTCDI-57) revisit Conversation#end

2010-09-20 Thread Jakob Korherr
+1 for #1

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Jakob

2010/9/18 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de:
 +1

 LieGrue,
 strub

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 Subject: AW: [jira] Created: (EXTCDI-57) revisit Conversation#end
 To: MyFaces Development dev@myfaces.apache.org
 Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 7:36 PM

 +1 for #1  Yes, is is obvious that close() closes immediately.  Ciao,Mario  
 Von: Gerhard [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Samstag, 18. September 2010 17:52
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                 Key: EXTCDI-57
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXTCDI-57
             Project: MyFaces CODI
          Issue Type: Task
          Components: JEE-JSF12-Module, JEE-JSF20-Module
            Reporter: Gerhard Petracek


 we should think about the naming of this important api, because std. cdi 
 conversations offer the same method.

 codi conversations are very similar to orchestra conversations.

 in orchestra #end means that the conversation gets terminated immediately.
 currently we have the same with codi conversations.

 if we would like to add an additional api which terminates the conversation 
 after the rendering process (= behavior of std. cdi conversations), we would 
 have to introduce a name which might confuse users.

 we have the following options:

 #1:
 renaming #end to #close - it's more clear to users that it works differently 
 (compared to std. cdi conversations).
 so we still have #end if we add an additional api for terminating the 
 conversation at the end of the request.
 if we won't introduce the additional api, we still have a method which 
 indicates that the termination process works differently compared to std. cdi 
 conversations.
 the only disadvantage is that it isn't intuitive for users who used orchestra.

 #2:
 keeping the current api (#end) for terminating the conversation immediately. 
 so we will need a name for an api which ends the conversation after the 
 rendering process.
 (we could use #close. but then we have #end which works differently (compared 
 to std. cdi conversations) and #close also doesn't really express the 
 difference (and other names might sound strange). so we might end up with 
 confused users.)

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AW: [jira] Created: (EXTCDI-57) revisit Conversation#end

2010-09-18 Thread Mario Ivankovits
+1 for #1

 

Yes, is is obvious that close() closes immediately.

 

Ciao,

Mario

 

Von: Gerhard [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Samstag, 18. September 2010 17:52
An: MyFaces Development
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+1 for #1

 

regards,

gerhard

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2010/9/18 Gerhard Petracek (JIRA) dev@myfaces.apache.org

revisit Conversation#end


Key: EXTCDI-57
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXTCDI-57
Project: MyFaces CODI
 Issue Type: Task
 Components: JEE-JSF12-Module, JEE-JSF20-Module
   Reporter: Gerhard Petracek


we should think about the naming of this important api, because std. cdi
conversations offer the same method.

codi conversations are very similar to orchestra conversations.

in orchestra #end means that the conversation gets terminated immediately.
currently we have the same with codi conversations.

if we would like to add an additional api which terminates the conversation
after the rendering process (= behavior of std. cdi conversations), we would
have to introduce a name which might confuse users.

we have the following options:

#1:
renaming #end to #close - it's more clear to users that it works
differently (compared to std. cdi conversations).
so we still have #end if we add an additional api for terminating the
conversation at the end of the request.
if we won't introduce the additional api, we still have a method which
indicates that the termination process works differently compared to std.
cdi conversations.
the only disadvantage is that it isn't intuitive for users who used
orchestra.

#2:
keeping the current api (#end) for terminating the conversation immediately.
so we will need a name for an api which ends the conversation after the
rendering process.
(we could use #close. but then we have #end which works differently
(compared to std. cdi conversations) and #close also doesn't really express
the difference (and other names might sound strange). so we might end up
with confused users.)

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Re: AW: [jira] Created: (EXTCDI-57) revisit Conversation#end

2010-09-18 Thread Mark Struberg
+1

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Sat, 9/18/10, Mario Ivankovits ma...@ops.co.at wrote:

From: Mario Ivankovits ma...@ops.co.at
Subject: AW: [jira] Created: (EXTCDI-57) revisit Conversation#end
To: MyFaces Development dev@myfaces.apache.org
Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010, 7:36 PM

+1 for #1  Yes, is is obvious that close() closes immediately.  Ciao,Mario  
Von: Gerhard [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Samstag, 18. September 2010 17:52
An: MyFaces Development
Betreff: Re: [jira] Created: (EXTCDI-57) revisit Conversation#end  +1 for #1  
regards,gerhard

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Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German

Professional Support for Apache MyFaces

  2010/9/18 Gerhard Petracek (JIRA) dev@myfaces.apache.orgrevisit 
Conversation#end


                Key: EXTCDI-57
                URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EXTCDI-57
            Project: MyFaces CODI
         Issue Type: Task
         Components: JEE-JSF12-Module, JEE-JSF20-Module
           Reporter: Gerhard Petracek


we should think about the naming of this important api, because std. cdi 
conversations offer the same method.

codi conversations are very similar to orchestra conversations.

in orchestra #end means that the conversation gets terminated immediately.
currently we have the same with codi conversations.

if we would like to add an additional api which terminates the conversation 
after the rendering process (= behavior of std. cdi conversations), we would 
have to introduce a name which might confuse users.

we have the following options:

#1:
renaming #end to #close - it's more clear to users that it works differently 
(compared to std. cdi conversations).
so we still have #end if we add an additional api for terminating the 
conversation at the end of the request.
if we won't introduce the additional api, we still have a method which 
indicates that the termination process works differently compared to std. cdi 
conversations.
the only disadvantage is that it isn't intuitive for users who used orchestra.

#2:
keeping the current api (#end) for terminating the conversation immediately. so 
we will need a name for an api which ends the conversation after the rendering 
process.
(we could use #close. but then we have #end which works differently (compared 
to std. cdi conversations) and #close also doesn't really express the 
difference (and other names might sound strange). so we might end up with 
confused users.)

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