Re: [core][discuss] Is it worth to include Stateless JSF / View Pooling concept into MyFaces?

2013-02-08 Thread Thomas Andraschko
+0 from my side. Hacking third party libraries is actually a no-go. 2013/2/5 Leonardo Uribe lu4...@gmail.com Hi 2013/2/5 Thomas Andraschko andraschko.tho...@gmail.com: Hi, from the performance perspective, it's a great feature. 8% and more are really much. On the other hand, i

Re: [core][discuss] Is it worth to include Stateless JSF / View Pooling concept into MyFaces?

2013-02-08 Thread Mark Struberg
-0.2 it is imo not really worth it. The benefits are just too small, and the complexity is too high. LieGrue, strub From: Thomas Andraschko andraschko.tho...@gmail.com To: MyFaces Development dev@myfaces.apache.org Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 6:31 PM

Re: [core][discuss] Is it worth to include Stateless JSF / View Pooling concept into MyFaces?

2013-02-05 Thread Walter Mourão
Hi folks, it looks to me it does not worth the effort of maintaining such a kind of feature, since it has so many conditions to work and disadvantages. Best regards, Walter Mourão http://waltermourao.com.br http://arcadian.com.br http://oriens.com.br On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Leonardo

Re: [core][discuss] Is it worth to include Stateless JSF / View Pooling concept into MyFaces?

2013-02-05 Thread Thomas Andraschko
Hi, from the performance perspective, it's a great feature. 8% and more are really much. On the other hand, i thought it would be more improvement (like 15-20%). I don't know about the maintenance effort, maybe it would be better to search optimizations in other places. Regards, Thomas

Re: [core][discuss] Is it worth to include Stateless JSF / View Pooling concept into MyFaces?

2013-02-05 Thread Leonardo Uribe
Hi 2013/2/5 Thomas Andraschko andraschko.tho...@gmail.com: Hi, from the performance perspective, it's a great feature. 8% and more are really much. On the other hand, i thought it would be more improvement (like 15-20%). That's the point. It is because the previous improvements done that

[core][discuss] Is it worth to include Stateless JSF / View Pooling concept into MyFaces?

2013-02-04 Thread Leonardo Uribe
Hi Some time ago, this proposal was submitted to the consideration of this list. [core][proposal] JSF View Pooling (going beyond JSF Stateless Mode) http://markmail.org/message/54rb3aphc6txwzbr I have been thinking about the advantages and disadvantages of this technique. Advantages: - Build

Re: [core][discuss] Is it worth to include Stateless JSF / View Pooling concept into MyFaces?

2013-02-04 Thread Grant Smith
Can it be optional, with a context param ? On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Leonardo Uribe lu4...@apache.org wrote: Hi Some time ago, this proposal was submitted to the consideration of this list. [core][proposal] JSF View Pooling (going beyond JSF Stateless Mode)

Re: [core][discuss] Is it worth to include Stateless JSF / View Pooling concept into MyFaces?

2013-02-04 Thread Leonardo Uribe
2013/2/4 Grant Smith gr...@marathonpm.com Can it be optional, with a context param ? Yes, it can be optional, that's the idea. In this point we are in a situation where we need to be sure that the idea is good enough to be included in MyFaces or not (not all possible ideas of improvement can