Re: Apache JIRA vs GitHub issues / discussions

2021-09-23 Thread John Mc
Interesting point, JIRA seems very decoupled from everything else at the moment. We have a lot of open tickets there ~3000 and we're not doing a great job keeping an eye on it. it might allow people to raise bugs more freely as more users would have GH accounts then Apache JIRA accounts so it ma

Apache JIRA vs GitHub issues / discussions

2021-09-23 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi, I've long felt that our use of JIRA and poor integration with the PR process, etc. is more of a hindrance than a help, particularly during releases. This email just popped up on users@infra (needs sign in) about Apache Airflow's switch a couple of years back. Found it very interesting - food

Re: Postmortem 12.5

2021-09-23 Thread Michael Bien
On 23.09.21 14:59, Neil C Smith wrote: On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 13:38, Michael Bien wrote: If the plugin portal mechanism works ok with major.minor, why change it. Given the current plugin portal mechanism *doesn't* work OK, then it would be better not to let it sway this discussion - see eg. h

Re: Postmortem 12.5

2021-09-23 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 13:38, Michael Bien wrote: > If the plugin portal mechanism works ok > with major.minor, why change it. Given the current plugin portal mechanism *doesn't* work OK, then it would be better not to let it sway this discussion - see eg. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/N

Re: A NetBeans Packager tool?

2021-09-23 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi Oliver, Sorry for the delayed follow up - was away for a while and catching up. Thanks for your thoughts ... On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 08:32, Oliver Rettig wrote: > I would suggest to create a cwiki-page maybe under How-to-Articles or is it a > better place? I think a place to collect all the

Re: Postmortem 12.5

2021-09-23 Thread Michael Bien
On 22.09.21 19:01, Ernie Rael wrote: On 9/21/2021 10:50 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: 2. *The next major release.* [snip] From 13 onwards, maybe each release should be a major release, i.e., there are enough numbers in the world, we don't need minor releases anymore after that breakpoint. This

Re: Postmortem 12.5

2021-09-23 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 09:57, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > IMHO, since Netbeans is mostly an IDE for Java, it would be beneficial > for users to have the Netbeans major number be the same as the > supported JDK release number, Stirring the hornet's nest! :-) For better or worse, that was explici

Re: Postmortem 12.5

2021-09-23 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
IMHO, since Netbeans is mostly an IDE for Java, it would be beneficial for users to have the Netbeans major number be the same as the supported JDK release number, and other all point releases. So, when Netbeans is fully supporting JDK17, it would be Netbeans 17, 17.1, 17.2 etc. and when it will su